{"id":25536,"date":"2022-06-13T23:36:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-13T21:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=25536"},"modified":"2022-06-17T10:55:01","modified_gmt":"2022-06-17T08:55:01","slug":"budapeszt-inauguracja-klubow-europy-karpat-w-scruton-cafe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/sk\/wydarzenia\/budapeszt-inauguracja-klubow-europy-karpat-w-scruton-cafe\/","title":{"rendered":"Budape\u0161\u0165: Sl\u00e1vnostn\u00e9 otvorenie Karpatsk\u00fdch eur\u00f3pskych klubov v kaviarni Scruton"},"content":{"rendered":"

13. j\u00fana sa v Budape\u0161ti v r\u00e1mci otvorenia Karpatsk\u00fdch eur\u00f3pskych klubov uskuto\u010dnila panelov\u00e1 diskusia o po\u013esko-ma\u010farsk\u00fdch vz\u0165ahoch a vojne na Ukrajine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Z\u00fa\u010dastnil sa na \u0148om okrem in\u00fdch Ryszard Terlecki - predseda Sejmu<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchci\u0144ski, predseda V\u00fdboru pre zahrani\u010dn\u00e9 veci
Bogus\u0142aw Sonik, poslanec po\u013esk\u00e9ho parlamentu<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zsolt N\u00e9meth, predseda zahrani\u010dn\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru ma\u010farsk\u00e9ho N\u00e1rodn\u00e9ho zhroma\u017edenia<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n, n\u00e1mestn\u00edk ministra na \u00farade predsedu vl\u00e1dy Ma\u010farska<\/p>\n\n\n\n

a hostia - opozi\u010dn\u00ed \u010dlenovia komunistick\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Diskusiu moderoval riadite\u013e In\u0161tit\u00fatu Wac\u0142awa Felczaka, profesor Maciej Szymanowski.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Miesto stretnutia: kaviare\u0148 Scruton.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prv\u00fdm re\u010dn\u00edkom bol Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n. Po\u017eiadali ho, aby predstavil postavu Rogera Scrutona, konzervat\u00edvneho filozofa a spisovate\u013ea, a vysvetlil, \u010do je to vlastne kaviare\u0148 - zn\u00e1me miesto stretnut\u00ed a diskusi\u00ed. Druh\u00fdm re\u010dn\u00edkom bol Zsolt N\u00e9meth, ktor\u00fd v \u00favode pouk\u00e1zal na knihu profesora Ryszarda Terleck\u00e9ho Solidarno\u015b\u0107 1980-1989. The Polish Road to Freedom, ktor\u00e1 ned\u00e1vno vy\u0161la v Ma\u010farsku. Potom informoval o pl\u00e1noch na zalo\u017eenie Scrutonov\u00fdch kaviarn\u00ed v Po\u013esku, napr. vo Var\u0161ave alebo v Przemy\u015bli. V \u010fal\u0161ej \u010dasti, v s\u00favislosti s t\u00e9mou diskusie, uviedol, \u017ee po\u013esko-ma\u010farsk\u00e9 priate\u013estvo bolo v poslednom \u010dase vystaven\u00e9 sk\u00fa\u0161ke. Prelomovou bola n\u00e1v\u0161teva novozvolen\u00e9ho ma\u010farsk\u00e9ho prezidenta v Po\u013esku a pr\u00edchod po\u013eskej deleg\u00e1cie je reakciou na \u0148u.
Vyjadril presved\u010denie, \u017ee z h\u013eadiska cie\u013eov s\u00fa poz\u00edcie Ma\u010farska a Po\u013eska rovnak\u00e9, ale l\u00ed\u0161ia sa v prostriedkoch a sp\u00f4sobe ich dosiahnutia. Vyhl\u00e1sil, \u017ee Ma\u010farsko plne podporuje vstup Ukrajiny do Eur\u00f3pskej \u00fanie, na\u010drtol svoju v\u00edziu konzervat\u00edvnej Eur\u00f3py - Eur\u00f3py n\u00e1rodov - a vyhl\u00e1sil, \u017ee je neprijate\u013en\u00e9 obnovi\u0165 Sovietsky zv\u00e4z. Ide o spolo\u010dn\u00e9 poz\u00edcie oboch kraj\u00edn. Upozornil v\u0161ak, \u017ee Eur\u00f3pa \u010del\u00ed hospod\u00e1rskej recesii a sankcie n\u00e1s bud\u00fa st\u00e1\u0165 ve\u013ea. Tento pr\u00edstup sa v jednotliv\u00fdch krajin\u00e1ch l\u00ed\u0161i a o tom mus\u00edme diskutova\u0165. Potom sa slova op\u00e4\u0165 ujal moder\u00e1tor diskusie, profesor Szymanowski. Hovoril o my\u0161lienke konferencie Eur\u00f3pa Karp\u00e1t a uviedol konkr\u00e9tny pr\u00edklad: na jednej z konferenci\u00ed bol sformulovan\u00fd postul\u00e1t vybudova\u0165 cestu Via Carpatia a dnes sa u\u017e m\u00f4\u017eeme te\u0161i\u0165 z prv\u00fdch v\u00fdsledkov - \u010diasto\u010dne u\u017e vybudovanej a rozostavanej r\u00fdchlostnej cesty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


\u010ealej vyst\u00fapil Marek Kuchci\u0144ski, ktor\u00fd vysvetlil my\u0161lienku Karpatsk\u00fdch eur\u00f3pskych klubov. Ide o diskusiu o na\u0161ich hodnot\u00e1ch, my\u0161lienkach, konzervativizme alebo v\u00edzii Rogera Scrutona. Dne\u0161n\u00e9 v\u00fdzvy si vy\u017eaduj\u00fa tak\u00e9to spolo\u010dn\u00e9 diskusie a pr\u00e1ve na to boli zalo\u017een\u00e9 Karpatsk\u00e9 eur\u00f3pske kluby. Ozn\u00e1mil tie\u017e in\u0161titucionaliz\u00e1ciu Karpatskej Eur\u00f3py. Pouk\u00e1zal na skuto\u010dnos\u0165, \u017ee vstupom do E\u00da sme odmietli bari\u00e9ry a hranice, napr. m\u00f4\u017eeme vo\u013ene cestova\u0165, ale niektor\u00e9 prek\u00e1\u017eky zost\u00e1vaj\u00fa. Vojna na Ukrajine je jednou z tak\u00fdchto prek\u00e1\u017eok, t. j. novou v\u00fdzvou. Zd\u00f4raznil, \u017ee posilnenie po\u013esko-ma\u010farsk\u00fdch vz\u0165ahov je na\u0161ou bud\u00facnos\u0165ou, ale vy\u017eaduje si diskusiu, a vyjadril spokojnos\u0165, \u017ee sa tak deje pr\u00e1ve teraz a na takomto nezvy\u010dajnom mieste.
\u010eal\u0161\u00edm re\u010dn\u00edkom bol podpredseda Sejmu Ryszard Terlecki, ktor\u00fd na \u00favod povedal, \u017ee vojna n\u00e1s zasko\u010dila, jej vypuknutie aj hrdinsk\u00fd odpor Ukrajincov
a bezmocnos\u0165 zvy\u0161ku sveta. V prv\u00fdch d\u0148och sme sa b\u00e1li glob\u00e1lneho konfliktu, ale prekonali sme strach a za\u010dali sme Ukrajine re\u00e1lne pom\u00e1ha\u0165. Pre Po\u013esko je zrejm\u00e9, \u017ee mus\u00edme pom\u00f4c\u0165 n\u00e1\u0161mu susedovi, ktor\u00fd by mal br\u00e1ni\u0165 svoju suverenitu a z\u00e1rove\u0148 oslabova\u0165 Rusko. Terlecki v\u0161ak vyjadril obavy, \u017ee poz\u00edcie jednotliv\u00fdch kraj\u00edn s\u00fa nejednotn\u00e9. Po\u013esko okrem in\u00e9ho prekvapilo, \u017ee Ma\u010farsko vid\u00ed situ\u00e1ciu inak, ale vieme to pochopi\u0165 v ekonomickom a politickom kontexte. Vyjadril tie\u017e obavy, \u017ee n\u00e1v\u0161teva po\u013esk\u00fdch poslancov by mohla sl\u00fa\u017ei\u0165 ako propaganda pre opoz\u00edciu, ktor\u00e1 by mohla obvini\u0165 na\u0161u vl\u00e1du z proputinovsk\u00e9ho postoja. D\u00e1va to do s\u00favislosti s t\u00fdm, \u017ee sa v Po\u013esku bl\u00ed\u017eia vo\u013eby, \u010do by mohlo by\u0165 argumentom v kampani. V Ma\u010farsku je situ\u00e1cia \u00faplne in\u00e1, preto\u017ee tam u\u017e vo\u013eby prebehli. Potom sa slova ujal Bogus\u0142aw Sonik, ktor\u00fd povedal, \u017ee probl\u00e9my, ktor\u00fdm \u010del\u00edme, sa t\u00fdkaj\u00fa slobodn\u00fdch kraj\u00edn. Nov\u00fd probl\u00e9m je in\u00fd - Ukrajina bojuje za svoju aj na\u0161u slobodu. Podpora Ukrajiny m\u00e1 obrovsk\u00fa cenu, ale sloboda a nez\u00e1vislos\u0165 s\u00fa na nezaplatenie. Ma\u010farsko sa preto nesmie riadi\u0165 len vlastn\u00fdmi z\u00e1ujmami a nesmie sa b\u00e1\u0165 kritiky in\u00fdch, preto\u017ee kritizovan\u00e9 nie je len Ma\u010farsko, ale napr\u00edklad aj Franc\u00fazsko s Emanuelom Macronom a Nemecko s Olafom Scholzom. Na z\u00e1ver dodal, \u017ee Po\u013esko vn\u00edma nepodporu Ukrajiny zo strany Ma\u010farska ako nedostatok empatie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n sa ujal slova po druh\u00fdkr\u00e1t a vyjadril n\u00e1zor Ma\u010farska, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 jeho nepriate\u013eom alebo priate\u013eom a \u017ee Ma\u010farsko sa mus\u00ed napriek v\u0161etk\u00e9mu posilni\u0165. Je v\u0161ak presved\u010den\u00fd, \u017ee vojna je pre nich ve\u013ekou trag\u00e9diou a hrozbou. Prirovnal vojnu k filmu, ktor\u00fd ka\u017ed\u00fd z n\u00e1s sleduje, ale interpretuje ho inak. Ma\u010farsko aj Po\u013esko ods\u00fadili Rusko, podporili Ukrajinu a zachovali sa \u013eudsky. Eur\u00f3pa v\u0161ak mus\u00ed by\u0165 jednotnej\u0161ia. Povo\u013euje vojensk\u00fa podporu Ukrajine, ale hospod\u00e1rske sankcie sa musia prepo\u010d\u00edta\u0165. Ako pr\u00edklad uviedol sankcie uvalen\u00e9 na Rusko v roku 2014 po anexii Krymu, ktor\u00e9 nemali \u017eiadny \u00fa\u010dinok, ale priniesli Ma\u010farsku ve\u013ek\u00e9 straty, a napriek tomu o 8 rokov nesk\u00f4r Rusko op\u00e4\u0165 za\u00fato\u010dilo. Pod\u013ea neho je logika Ma\u010farska zalo\u017een\u00e1 na mieri. Nez\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, kto vyhr\u00e1, d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 je obnovi\u0165 mier, preto\u017ee je to v z\u00e1ujme Ma\u010farska.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


Zsolt N\u00e9meth zasa zd\u00f4raznil, \u017ee sankcie s\u00fa ve\u013emi d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9, ale s\u00fahlas\u00ed s t\u00fdm, \u017ee sa musia prepo\u010d\u00edta\u0165. Uviedol, \u017ee m\u00e1me do \u010dinenia s propagandistickou vojnou a \u017ee rozdiely nesm\u00fa pokazi\u0165 ve\u013emi dobr\u00e9 po\u013esko-ma\u010farsk\u00e9 vz\u0165ahy, ktor\u00e9 sa rozv\u00edjali tis\u00edc rokov, a zd\u00f4raznil ich silu. Zd\u00f4raznil, \u017ee sa ve\u013emi ob\u00e1va hospod\u00e1rskej recesie, ktor\u00e1 by mohla ma\u0165 tragick\u00e9 n\u00e1sledky, a preto po\u017eiadal druh\u00fa stranu o pochopenie. Vyjadruje v\u010faku Marekovi Kuchci\u0144sk\u00e9mu, preto\u017ee ke\u010f o tom p\u00ed\u0161e v po\u013esk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00e1ch, zd\u00f4raz\u0148uje, \u017ee nem\u00f4\u017eeme poveda\u0165, \u017ee sa l\u00ed\u0161ime, ale len sa to sna\u017e\u00edme pochopi\u0165, a Marek Kuchci\u0144ski to ch\u00e1pe. Je presved\u010den\u00fd, \u017ee bez oh\u013eadu na vojensk\u00fa podporu je potrebn\u00e1 diplomacia. Rusko bude aj na\u010falej s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou sveta a my mus\u00edme kona\u0165 tak, aby bolo aj na\u010falej s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou sveta, ale aby v bud\u00facnosti nepredstavovalo hrozbu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchci\u0144ski \u010fakuje Zsoltovi Nemethovi za \u010dl\u00e1nok v po\u013esk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00e1ch, preto\u017ee objas\u0148uje ma\u010farsk\u00e9 stanovisko a podnecuje diskusiu. Op\u00e4\u0165 vyjadruje spokojnos\u0165 s t\u00fdm, \u017ee m\u00f4\u017eeme na tomto paneli diskutova\u0165 o tak\u00fdch z\u00e1va\u017en\u00fdch a zauj\u00edmav\u00fdch t\u00e9mach. Slobodn\u00e9 so slobodn\u00fdm, rovn\u00e9 s rovn\u00fdm. Takto mus\u00edme budova\u0165 Eur\u00f3pu, preto\u017ee ke\u010f sme mali toto heslo, na\u0161i susedia pre n\u00e1s nepredstavovali hrozbu. Takto by videl Eur\u00f3psku \u00faniu - ako Eur\u00f3pu vlasti, nie ako podriadenie sa my\u0161lienke eur\u00f3pskeho super\u0161t\u00e1tu. To je to, \u010do n\u00e1s sp\u00e1ja a \u010do mus\u00edme pochopi\u0165. Predseda parlamentu uviedol, \u017ee je anachronick\u00e9 myslie\u0165 si, \u017ee by sa Ukrajina mala vzda\u0165 \u010dasti svojho \u00fazemia. Pod\u013ea neho je z\u00e1sada nedotknute\u013enosti hran\u00edc nespochybnite\u013en\u00e1. Na Ukrajine vznik\u00e1 nov\u00fd n\u00e1rod, a ak sa rusky hovoriaci ob\u010dania postavia proti ruskojazy\u010dn\u00e9mu agresorovi, re\u0161pektujeme to, a preto Ukrajinu tak ve\u013emi podporujeme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u010ealej vyst\u00fapil Ryszard Terlecki, ktor\u00fd uviedol, \u017ee u\u017e mnoho rokov sa s\u013eubuje, \u017ee Ukrajina bude prijat\u00e1 do Eur\u00f3pskej \u00fanie. To ist\u00e9 plat\u00ed pre \u010ciernu Horu alebo Maced\u00f3nsko, ktor\u00e9 napriek tomu, \u017ee sp\u013a\u0148aj\u00fa podmienky a patria do NATO, st\u00e1le nie s\u00fa jeho \u010dlenmi. V d\u00f4sledku vojny sa situ\u00e1cia zmenila a Ukrajina a v\u0161etky ostatn\u00e9 krajiny maj\u00fa \u0161ancu vst\u00fapi\u0165 do \u00danie, preto\u017ee star\u00e1 \u00dania pochopila podstatu probl\u00e9mu. Pred na\u0161imi o\u010dami sa odohr\u00e1vaj\u00fa obrovsk\u00e9 geopolitick\u00e9 zmeny. Stredn\u00e1 Eur\u00f3pa sa mus\u00ed kone\u010dne zmieri\u0165 sama so sebou. Zn\u00ed\u017eenie v\u00fdroby uhlia a at\u00f3movej energie sa v \u00danii pl\u00e1nuje u\u017e ve\u013emi dlho a ved\u00fa k tomu aj sankcie v r\u00e1mci \u00danie. Napriek na\u0161im rozdielom mus\u00edme by\u0165 siln\u00ed, mus\u00edme by\u0165 spolu a presved\u010di\u0165 o tom ostatn\u00fdch. Na z\u00e1ver sa slova ujal moder\u00e1tor panelu, profesor Maciej Szymanowski, ktor\u00fd vyjadril spokojnos\u0165 s t\u00fdm, \u017ee tak\u00e1to diskusia, ve\u013emi v\u00e1\u017ena a konkr\u00e9tna, pr\u00e1ve otvorila Karpatsk\u00e9 eur\u00f3pske kluby v Budape\u0161ti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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