{"id":8243,"date":"2018-01-04T14:34:58","date_gmt":"2018-01-04T13:34:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=8243"},"modified":"2018-01-04T15:06:21","modified_gmt":"2018-01-04T14:06:21","slug":"roznic-sie-szanujac-wywiad-marszalka-sejmu-dla-goscia-niedzielnego","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/ro\/wydarzenia\/roznic-sie-szanujac-wywiad-marszalka-sejmu-dla-goscia-niedzielnego\/","title":{"rendered":"Deosebirea, cu privire la - interviul pre\u0219edintelui Sejmului pentru \"Invitatul de duminic\u0103\""},"content":{"rendered":"

ANDRZEJ GRAJEWSKI: Vorbim \u00een plin\u0103 reconstruc\u021bie guvernamental\u0103. Premierul Beata Szyd\u0142o a fost felicitat\u0103 diminea\u021ba \u00een Sejm, iar seara a fost anun\u021bat\u0103 demisia sa. Nu a\u021bi sim\u021bit niciun disconfort \u00een aceast\u0103 situa\u021bie?<\/strong><\/p>\n

MAREK KUCHCI\u0143SKI: Pute\u021bi privi lucrurile altfel - totul a fost planificat. S\u0103 acorde respect \u0219i recunoa\u0219tere marilor realiz\u0103ri \u0219i activit\u0103\u021bii premierului Beata Szyd\u0142o \u0219i, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, s\u0103 trebuiasc\u0103 s\u0103 decid\u0103 s\u0103 o schimbe. \u00cen a doua parte a actualului mandat \u0219i guvernul dreptei unite se va confrunta cu provoc\u0103ri din ce \u00een ce mai dificile, at\u00e2t pe plan interna\u021bional, c\u00e2t \u0219i pe plan intern. Cred c\u0103 ne putem a\u0219tepta la o presiune crescut\u0103 \u0219i la critici nedrepte din partea diferitelor institu\u021bii interna\u021bionale, a\u0219a cum a fost exemplificat de decizia Comisiei Europene de a lansa procedura legat\u0103 de articolul 7 din Tratatul UE \u00eempotriva Poloniei. Cu toate acestea, cele mai importante provoc\u0103ri se afl\u0103 \u00een sfera economic\u0103. Este nevoie de o consolidare a ac\u021biunii guvernamentale \u00een domeniul economic \u0219i sunt convins c\u0103 premierul Mateusz Morawiecki va reu\u0219i acest lucru. A\u0219 dori s\u0103 subliniez faptul c\u0103 este primul \u0219ef de guvern din 1989 \u00eencoace care are experien\u021ba conducerii unei b\u0103nci interna\u021bionale importante.<\/p>\n

\nVa avea loc \u00eenlocuirea mini\u0219trilor \u00eenc\u0103 din ianuarie sau acest proces se va face \u00een etape?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Premierul a spus c\u0103 analizeaz\u0103 activitatea diferitelor ministere, a\u0219a c\u0103 dore\u0219te s\u0103 aib\u0103 ceva timp \u00eenainte de a lua decizii privind personalul. Premierul va decide, de asemenea, cum \u0219i \u00een ce ritm vor avea loc aceste schimb\u0103ri.<\/p>\n

Asist\u0103m la proteste care arat\u0103 c\u0103 unii cet\u0103\u021beni sunt \u00eengrijora\u021bi de legile privind Consiliul Na\u021bional al Magistraturii \u0219i Curtea Suprem\u0103. Chiar \u0219i Biroul de Analize Seym a exprimat rezerve cu privire la constitu\u021bionalitatea unora dintre solu\u021biile adoptate.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dup\u0103 2015, a existat o adev\u0103rat\u0103 avalan\u0219\u0103 de exper\u021bi constitu\u021bionali\u0219ti care s-au pronun\u021bat f\u0103r\u0103 echivoc cu privire la modific\u0103rile propuse de noi. Cu toate acestea, nu i-am observat vorbind cu acela\u0219i curaj \u0219i convingere atunci c\u00e2nd coali\u021bia de guvernare de atunci a \u00eenc\u0103lcat \u00een mod repetat, \u00een mod cunoscut, normele constitu\u021bionale. \u00cen Polonia, exist\u0103 o singur\u0103 institu\u021bie autorizat\u0103 s\u0103 verifice constitu\u021bionalitatea legilor adoptate. Este vorba despre Tribunalul Constitu\u021bional. At\u00e2ta timp c\u00e2t Tribunalul nu s-a pronun\u021bat asupra neconstitu\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bii unei anumite legi, nu exist\u0103 motive pentru a o prejudeca. Suntem obliga\u021bi de un principiu care decurge direct din Constitu\u021bie, principiul constitu\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bii actelor juridice. At\u00e2ta timp c\u00e2t nu sunt contestate de c\u0103tre Curte. Cu toate acestea, orice cet\u0103\u021bean poate ridica o obiec\u021bie la Curtea Constitu\u021bional\u0103. Nu am nicio preocupare cu privire la neconstitu\u021bionalitatea actelor judiciare. \u00cen ceea ce prive\u0219te metoda de selec\u021bie a judec\u0103torilor, la r\u00e2ndul lor, multe \u021b\u0103ri occidentale au adoptat de mult timp solu\u021biile pe care le-am propus acum.<\/p>\n

Exist\u0103 \u00eengrijorarea c\u0103 mecanismul extraordinar de pl\u00e2ngere ar putea destabiliza sistemul juridic prin oferirea unei oportunit\u0103\u021bi de contestare a hot\u0103r\u00e2rilor judec\u0103tore\u0219ti definitive.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cen activitatea mea de deputat \u00een Parlamentul European, am \u00eent\u00e2lnit numeroase cazuri \u00een care oamenii au venit la biroul meu pentru a cere ajutor atunci c\u00e2nd cazurile lor au fost judecate \u00een mod nedrept \u00een toate cazurile. \u00cen mai multe cazuri, am ajutat - cu succes - la sesizarea Cur\u021bii Europene de Justi\u021bie pentru c\u0103 toate c\u0103ile de justi\u021bie la nivel na\u021bional erau deja \u00eenchise. Din acest motiv, consider c\u0103 crearea unei posibilit\u0103\u021bi extraordinare de redeschidere a procedurilor \u00eentr-un caz \u00een care a existat \u00een mod clar o hot\u0103r\u00e2re nedreapt\u0103 este o solu\u021bie bun\u0103 care abordeaz\u0103 pur \u0219i simplu probleme reale.<\/p>\n

\nInstan\u021ba regional\u0103 a anulat decizia procurorului de a \u00eentrerupe ancheta privind transferul deliber\u0103rilor la Sala Coloanelor \u00een urm\u0103 cu un an. O sesizare de posibil\u0103 infrac\u021biune penal\u0103 fusese depus\u0103 de parlamentarii PO \u0219i Nowoczesna. Care ar putea fi consecin\u021bele?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Instan\u021ba a avut dreptul s\u0103 ia o astfel de decizie \u0219i nu o voi comenta. Tot ce pot spune este c\u0103 a\u0219 fi luat aceea\u0219i decizie \u00eentr-o situa\u021bie identic\u0103 cu un an \u00een urm\u0103. Transferul procedurilor din plen \u00een Camer\u0103 s-a f\u0103cut \u00een conformitate cu regulamentul Sejm-ului. Aceasta a fost cauzat\u0103 de un protest ilegal organizat de opozi\u021bie, care, \u00eenc\u0103lc\u00e2nd legea, a blocat sala de plen. Puteam fie s\u0103 \u00eentrerupem \u0219edin\u021ba Sejm-ului \u0219i s\u0103 ced\u0103m \u00een fa\u021ba ac\u021biunilor ilegale ale unor deputa\u021bi, fie s\u0103 continu\u0103m \u0219edin\u021ba acolo unde era posibil.<\/p>\n

Aceste evenimente revin \u00een contextul amenzii aplicate postului TVN24 de c\u0103tre KRRiT pentru modul \u00een care a reflectat protestele din fa\u021ba Sejm-ului. Sanc\u021biunile financiare ridicate impuse radiodifuzorilor sunt o modalitate bun\u0103 de a reglementa dezbaterea public\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A\u0219 dori s\u0103 atrag aten\u021bia asupra a dou\u0103 aspecte ale acestui caz. Avem dreptul s\u0103 ne a\u0219tept\u0103m ca jurnali\u0219tii s\u0103 ac\u021bioneze \u00een conformitate cu etica jurnalistic\u0103. Amestecarea informa\u021biilor cu comentariile este una dintre cele mai frecvente gre\u0219eli.<\/p>\n

\nNu numai la TVN24, ci \u0219i la serviciile publice de televiziune trebuie s\u0103 ne ocup\u0103m de acest lucru.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acest lucru nu schimb\u0103 cu nimic faptul c\u0103 este un comportament condamnabil. S\u0103 instigi la proteste \u00een jurul \u0219i \u00een interiorul Sejm-ului, s\u0103 iei partea unei for\u021be politice, nu este un standard bun pentru nicio televiziune de \u0219tiri. Consiliul Na\u021bional ia propriile decizii \u0219i este singurul responsabil pentru acestea. Nu este o decizie final\u0103. Poate fi contestat \u0219i \u0219tiu c\u0103 acest lucru s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat. \u00cen acela\u0219i timp, a\u0219 dori s\u0103 spun c\u0103 orice ac\u021biune a institu\u021biilor publice ar trebui s\u0103 ia \u00een considerare caracteristicile mass-media ca a\u0219a-numita a patra putere \u0219i s\u0103 le respecte independen\u021ba.<\/p>\n

Care va fi forma final\u0103 a legii pentru alegerile locale? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Acest lucru va depinde de natura amendamentelor din Senat, iar dezbaterea este \u00eenc\u0103 \u00een curs de desf\u0103\u0219urare acolo. Dac\u0103 Senatul va face amendamente, proiectul se va \u00eentoarce la Sejm \u0219i vom putea s\u0103 \u00eel trat\u0103m la \u00eenceputul anului. Nu \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219esc obiec\u021biile Comisiei Electorale de Stat fa\u021b\u0103 de acest proiect. \u00cen aproape 10 \u021b\u0103ri din UE, ministrul de interne este responsabil pentru preg\u0103tirea alegerilor \u0219i nimeni nu invoc\u0103 posibilitatea falsific\u0103rii din acest motiv. Nu trebuie s\u0103 uit\u0103m c\u0103 la alegerile locale din 2014 ne-am confruntat cu ceva complet jenant. Cinci milioane de voturi, care reprezentau 20% din num\u0103rul participan\u021bilor la alegeri, au fost considerate voturi nule. Acesta este un fapt care nu poate fi trecut cu vederea \u0219i s\u0103 ne prefacem c\u0103 nu s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat nimic. Responsabilitatea pentru acest lucru revine, de asemenea, PKW \u0219i Biroului Electoral de Stat. Proiectul \u00een curs de desf\u0103\u0219urare are ca scop asigurarea unei mai mari transparen\u021be \u0219i responsabilit\u0103\u021bi \u00een procedurile electorale.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Exist\u0103 temeri c\u0103, odat\u0103 cu noua lege, cei afla\u021bi la putere vor \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bi circumscrip\u021biile electorale \u00een a\u0219a fel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 fie avantaja\u021bi.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cemp\u0103r\u021birea districtelor este dreptul fiec\u0103rui organ legislativ sau legislativ din administra\u021bia local\u0103. Sejm-ul \u0219i Senatul nu vor avea nicio influen\u021b\u0103 \u00een acest sens. \u00cen cazul \u00een care se vor face schimb\u0103ri \u00een forma circumscrip\u021biilor electorale, acest lucru se va \u00eent\u00e2mpla sub controlul PKW.<\/p>\n

Ce se poate face pentru ca o disput\u0103 parlamentar\u0103 s\u0103 nu se transforme \u00eentr-o insult\u0103 la adresa celeilalte p\u0103r\u021bi? Asist\u0103m la un astfel de comportament at\u00e2t \u00een r\u00e2ndul reprezentan\u021bilor opozi\u021biei, c\u00e2t \u0219i al actualei majorit\u0103\u021bi.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cen aceast\u0103 legislatur\u0103, disputa politic\u0103 a escaladat foarte mult, at\u00e2t \u00een interiorul, c\u00e2t \u0219i \u00een afara Sejm-ului. Exist\u0103 o lips\u0103 clar\u0103 de respect pentru opiniile politice diferite. Din p\u0103cate, \u00een aceast\u0103 problem\u0103 s-a pierdut sim\u021bul limitei care nu trebuie dep\u0103\u0219it\u0103.<\/p>\n

\nA\u021bi mustrat vreodat\u0103 membri ai propriului partid pentru comportament inadecvat?<\/strong><\/p>\n

De mai multe ori. Unii deputa\u021bi nu au fost l\u0103sa\u021bi s\u0103 ia cuv\u00e2ntul, lucru pentru care am fost criticat \u00een clubul meu parlamentar. Dar pot s\u0103 v\u0103 asigur c\u0103 \u00een principal parlamentarii opozi\u021biei sunt cei care, prin comportamentul lor, \u00eencalc\u0103 solemnitatea Sejm-ului \u0219i regulile de procedur\u0103. Acest lucru este at\u00e2t de frecvent \u00eenc\u00e2t am devenit un sus\u021bin\u0103tor al modific\u0103rii regulamentului de procedur\u0103 al Sejm-ului \u0219i al introducerii unor sanc\u021biuni mai eficiente pentru a-i disciplina pe deputa\u021bi, de exemplu, dup\u0103 modelul Parlamentului European. Acolo, \u00een cazul unei infrac\u021biuni, sanc\u021biunea ar fi fost aplicat\u0103 imediat, f\u0103r\u0103 avertisment. Iar \u00een Sejm, procedura este de a\u0219a natur\u0103 \u00eenc\u00e2t mai \u00eent\u00e2i trebuie rostite \u00een mod repetat formulele de avertizare \u0219i abia apoi poate avea loc pedeapsa. De regul\u0103, \u00een momentul \u00een care se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 acest lucru, deputatul este deja \u00een scaunul s\u0103u \u0219i nu are sens s\u0103 fie pedepsit. Este un fel de joc de-a \u0219oarecele \u0219i pisica.<\/p>\n

\nCe urmeaz\u0103 pentru protec\u021bia juridic\u0103 a vie\u021bii nen\u0103scu\u021bilor? Se va mai duce la co\u0219ul de gunoi \u00eenc\u0103 un proiect social, sus\u021binut de sute de mii de oameni, a\u0219a cum s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu proiectul Comitetului de ini\u021biativ\u0103 legislativ\u0103 \"Stop Avortului\"?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cen acest moment, exist\u0103 dou\u0103 proiecte cet\u0103\u021bene\u0219ti pe aceast\u0103 tem\u0103 \u00een Sejm. Primul, care liberalizeaz\u0103 protec\u021bia vie\u021bii, va fi deja discutat \u00een prima \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 din ianuarie, c\u00e2nd este prev\u0103zut\u0103 prima lectur\u0103. Mo\u021biunea \"Opri\u021bi avortul\", depus\u0103 pu\u021bin mai t\u00e2rziu, care \u00eent\u0103re\u0219te protec\u021bia vie\u021bii umane, va fi, de asemenea, propus\u0103 Sejm-ului pentru lucru \u00een ianuarie. Acest din urm\u0103 document a fost semnat de peste 800.000 de persoane. Cred c\u0103 proiectul de consolidare a protec\u021biei vie\u021bii este o propunere bun\u0103. Sejm-ul ar trebui s\u0103 se g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103 serios la acest lucru. Un element important pentru a-i convinge pe parlamentari ar fi o campanie permanent\u0103 de sus\u021binere a acesteia.<\/p>\n

Permite\u021bi-mi s\u0103 v\u0103 \u00eentreb direct: mai multe mar\u0219uri negre nu \u00eei vor speria pe deputa\u021bii de la Lege \u0219i Justi\u021bie, a\u0219a cum s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat \u00een 2016?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cen acel moment, mai multe aspecte s-au suprapus. A fost \u00eenceputul dezbaterii despre schimb\u0103rile din sistemul judiciar, au existat legi care au eliminat privilegiile de pensie ale fo\u0219tilor ofi\u021beri de securitate. Am decis c\u0103 sunt prea multe probleme dificile \u00een Sejm. A\u0219a c\u0103 a trebuit s\u0103 fie e\u0219alonat.<\/p>\n

\nEste acum un moment mai bun?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acum da. \u00cen plus, acest proiect este mai bine preg\u0103tit.<\/p>\n

Parlamentul se va ocupa de problema ob\u021binerii desp\u0103gubirilor de la Germania? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Documentele din Republica Popular\u0103 Polonez\u0103 indic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 aceast\u0103 chestiune nu a fost rezolvat\u0103. Polonezii nu au primit la fel de multe compensa\u021bii ca cet\u0103\u021benii altor \u021b\u0103ri europene. Dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea, orice rela\u021bii de bun\u0103 vecin\u0103tate trebuie s\u0103 se bazeze nu numai pe \u00eencredere \u0219i pe acordul de interese comune, ci mai ales pe adev\u0103r.<\/p>\n

\nVa exista o rezolu\u021bie \u00een acest sens, o lege?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acest lucru va depinde de Sejm, dar voi privi favorabil activit\u0103\u021bile echipei parlamentare care se ocup\u0103 de aceste probleme. Var\u0219ovia, la ini\u021biativa pre\u0219edintelui Lech Kaczy\u0144ski, \u0219i-a f\u0103cut un bilan\u021b al pierderilor suferite, dar \u00een Polonia au existat mult mai multe ora\u0219e distruse. Voi aminti doar de Jas\u0142o, care a fost ras de pe fa\u021ba p\u0103m\u00e2ntului de germani \u00een 1944. Cred c\u0103 evaluarea pierderilor de r\u0103zboi ar trebui s\u0103 fie efectuat\u0103 \u0219i de c\u0103tre autorit\u0103\u021bile locale ale ora\u0219elor sau comunelor individuale care au fost distruse. \u00cenc\u0103 nu suntem con\u0219tien\u021bi de pierderile uria\u0219e suferite de polonezi \u00een timpul celui de-al Doilea R\u0103zboi Mondial. Acest lucru ar trebui s\u0103 se schimbe.<\/p>\n

\nCare este rolul Sejm-ului \u00een construirea rela\u021biilor interna\u021bionale, \u00een special \u00een cadrul Grupului de la Visegrad, dar \u0219i \u00een cadrul Ini\u021biativei Trilaterale? Cum aprecia\u021bi activitatea extern\u0103 a Sejm-ului \u00een actuala legislatur\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n

De la pre\u0219edin\u021bia polonez\u0103 de anul trecut a Grupului de la Vi\u0219egrad, a existat o cooperare real\u0103 \u0219i la nivel parlamentar. Prezent\u0103m o pozi\u021bie unitar\u0103 cu privire la necesitatea de a consolida rolul parlamentelor na\u021bionale \u00een UE. Rolul \u0219i responsabilitatea Poloniei \u0219i a altor \u021b\u0103ri de pe flancul estic al UE \u0219i al NATO sunt \u00een cre\u0219tere. De aici \u0219i Marea Tripl\u0103 sau marile proiecte de infrastructur\u0103 Nord-Sud, cum ar fi Via Carpathia, \u00een care sprijinul parlamentar pentru eforturile executivului are un rol tangibil.<\/p>\n

La \u00eent\u00e2lnirea premerg\u0103toare Cr\u0103ciunului, a\u021bi rupt o napolitan\u0103 cu parlamentarii opozi\u021biei?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bine\u00een\u021beles c\u0103 da. Am auzit chiar ur\u0103ri foarte frumoase din partea unor politicieni din opozi\u021bie. Consider c\u0103 este un semn bun. A\u0219 dori s\u0103 le urez tuturor deputa\u021bilor ca, \u00een ciuda diferen\u021belor, dar \u0219i a respectului reciproc, s\u0103 se g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103 \u00eentotdeauna la binele comun, la binele Poloniei.<\/p>\n

The Sunday Visitor, 4.1.2018, pag: 40<\/em><\/p>\n

Foto: Pawe\u0142 Kula<\/em><\/p>\n

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