{"id":6242,"date":"2017-04-29T09:10:55","date_gmt":"2017-04-29T07:10:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=6242"},"modified":"2017-04-29T09:15:53","modified_gmt":"2017-04-29T07:15:53","slug":"poranek-radia-wnet-wywiad-krzysztofa-skowronskiego-marszalkiem-sejmu-markiem-kuchcinskim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/ro\/wydarzenia\/poranek-radia-wnet-wywiad-krzysztofa-skowronskiego-marszalkiem-sejmu-markiem-kuchcinskim\/","title":{"rendered":"Emisiune matinal\u0103 la Radio Wnet, interviu realizat de Krzysztof Skowro\u0144ski cu Marek Kuchci\u0144ski, pre\u0219edintele Sejm-ului."},"content":{"rendered":"

KS: Candidatul la pre\u0219edin\u021bia Fran\u021bei \u0219i favoritul Emmanuel Macron a declarat c\u0103 \u00een Polonia se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 lucruri inacceptabile \u0219i a promis c\u0103, dac\u0103 va c\u00e2\u0219tiga alegerile, va impune sanc\u021biuni \u00eempotriva Poloniei... \u0219i o va face \u00een trei luni.<\/strong><\/p>\n

MK: Se poate exprima o indignare puternic\u0103, dar eu a\u0219 merge mai departe. Ceea ce m\u0103 surprinde este cavalerismul declara\u021biei din turul al doilea a candidatului la pre\u0219edin\u021bie al uneia dintre cele mai importante \u021b\u0103ri din UE fa\u021b\u0103 de o alt\u0103 \u021bar\u0103 din UE, Polonia, \u0219i ignoran\u021ba problemei care rezult\u0103 din aceast\u0103 declara\u021bie. Am impresia c\u0103 dl Macron a spus acest lucru pentru c\u0103 ar vrea s\u0103 piard\u0103 alegerile. Nu numai c\u0103 introduce zone de conflict \u00een rela\u021biile franco-poloneze, dar d\u0103 dovad\u0103 \u0219i de o mare ignoran\u021b\u0103 spun\u00e2nd c\u0103 Polonia \u00eencalc\u0103 regulile. \u00cen opinia multora dintre cei care sunt nemul\u021bumi\u021bi de func\u021bionarea Uniunii Europene, UE este cea care abuzeaz\u0103 de drepturile sale prin amestecul \u00een afacerile interne ale statelor, iar dl Macron ar trebui s\u0103 fie atent la acest lucru.<\/p>\n

Contextul este important, pentru c\u0103 Macron a rostit aceste cuvinte \u00eentr-o fabric\u0103 francez\u0103 care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 fie relocat\u0103 la Lodz. Iar dreptul fundamental al UE este libertatea pentru capitalul poporului, adic\u0103 anun\u021barea ruperii adev\u0103ratelor fundamente ale UE.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Este o declara\u021bie \u00een scopul unei campanii electorale, lipsit\u0103 de onestitate, dezinformatoare \u0219i acesta este punctul s\u0103u slab \u0219i, \u00een plus, m\u0103 \u00eentreb ce vor face francezii \u0219i proprietarii asocia\u021bi cu companii precum Leclerc, Decathlon, Auchan \u0219i alte companii franceze. \u00cen Polonia, c\u00e2teva mii dintre aceste institu\u021bii func\u021bioneaz\u0103 ca unit\u0103\u021bi de servicii. Dac\u0103 ar fi s\u0103 fie a\u0219a cum spune dl Macron, aceste companii ar trebui s\u0103 plece din Polonia. \u0218i vrea el asta?<\/p>\n

Exist\u0103 multe astfel de companii \u00een Polonia. Ceea ce este surprinz\u0103tor este faptul c\u0103 tema polonez\u0103 nu a ap\u0103rut \u00een campanie \u0219i, dintr-o dat\u0103, a ap\u0103rut at\u00e2t de puternic... Pare ciudat....<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pot cita un caz care a avut loc cu c\u00e2\u021biva ani \u00een urm\u0103 - sub guvernele predecesorilor no\u0219tri - c\u00e2nd autorit\u0103\u021bile poloneze nu au depus eforturi eficiente pentru a proteja industria construc\u021biilor navale. La acea vreme, Germania \u0219i Fran\u021ba \u00eencercau s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i protejeze \u0219antierele navale \u0219i nu reu\u0219eau \u00een Polonia. Francezii nu au avut niciun fel de scrupule \u00een a folosi legea, regulamentele, \u00een interesul propriilor companii, \u00een calitate de membru al UE... Aceasta nu este cea mai bun\u0103 form\u0103 de cooperare.<\/p>\n

Dac\u0103 Macron va deveni pre\u0219edinte al Fran\u021bei, este posibil ca acesta s\u0103 dea curs anun\u021burilor sale \u0219i s\u0103 introduc\u0103 sanc\u021biuni \u00eempotriva Poloniei \u00een termen de trei luni?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cu siguran\u021b\u0103 nu exist\u0103 astfel de \u0219anse, nu exist\u0103 astfel de posibilit\u0103\u021bi. Ar trebui s\u0103 existe mari dezbateri, decizii din partea tuturor autorit\u0103\u021bilor UE, inclusiv unanimitatea \u0219efilor de stat din \u00eentreaga UE. Este o himer\u0103 \u0219i o form\u0103 de cascadorie \u00een scop de campanie electoral\u0103 \u0219i pentru a convinge un grup de c\u00e2teva zeci sau sute de angaja\u021bi ai acestei fabrici, a c\u0103rei lichidare sau relocalizare \u00een Polonia a fost anun\u021bat\u0103.<\/p>\n

Domnule pre\u0219edinte, ave\u021bi o politic\u0103 interna\u021bional\u0103 foarte intens\u0103 \u00een numele parlamentului polonez. A existat un sentiment de ostracism fa\u021b\u0103 de Polonia la Bratislava, unde s-au \u00eent\u00e2lnit \u0219efii parlamentelor UE? Ungaria? Grupul de la Vi\u0219egrad?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nu am avut aceast\u0103 impresie; dimpotriv\u0103, din toate p\u0103r\u021bile a fost declarat\u0103 c\u0103utarea de compromisuri \u0219i propuneri de aprofundare a cooper\u0103rii. De la cele mai mari \u021b\u0103ri, cum ar fi Germania, Italia sau Fran\u021ba, p\u00e2n\u0103 la \u021b\u0103rile mai slabe, care au cea mai mare nevoie de sprijin \u0219i care au devenit recent membre ale UE. Ne deosebim \u00een abordarea noastr\u0103, \u00een alegerea c\u0103ii de reparare a UE. Cu toate acestea, nimeni nu a vorbit despre sl\u0103birea Uniunii. Exist\u0103 sus\u021bin\u0103tori ai cre\u0103rii unei a\u0219a-numite Uniuni cu dou\u0103 sau mai multe viteze, dar noi nu ne num\u0103r\u0103m printre ace\u0219tia \u0219i credem c\u0103 acest lucru ar putea sl\u0103bi Uniunea, dar au existat discu\u021bii despre cum s\u0103 consolid\u0103m Uniunea, s\u0103 consolid\u0103m cooperarea, f\u0103r\u0103 a ne impune propriile opinii.<\/p>\n

Exist\u0103 o idee care poate fi considerat\u0103 cea mai popular\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Majoritatea pre\u0219edin\u021bilor de parlamente s-au pronun\u021bat \u00een favoarea men\u021binerii cooper\u0103rii UE ca o organiza\u021bie interna\u021bional\u0103 mare de state suverane, inclusiv a statelor multina\u021bionale, cum ar fi Bosnia \u0219i Her\u021begovina, care dore\u0219te s\u0103 adere la UE. Discu\u021biile privind modul de organizare a rela\u021biilor au continuat. Se poate observa presiunea exercitat\u0103 de cele mai mari \u021b\u0103ri asupra celor mult mai mici. Sarcina mea a fost de a fi preocupat \u0219i de a m\u0103 asigura c\u0103 noi, \u00een UE, lucr\u0103m pentru a consolida importan\u021ba \u0219i rolul parlamentelor na\u021bionale. CE \u0219i PE iau decizii, pe care Polonia trebuie s\u0103 le adopte ulterior. Exist\u0103 multe acte juridice referitoare, de exemplu, la lucr\u0103torii deta\u0219a\u021bi sau la problemele energetice, care sunt d\u0103un\u0103toare pentru statul polonez \u0219i pentru antreprenorii polonezi, asupra c\u0103rora parlamentul polonez nu are nicio influen\u021b\u0103. Dac\u0103 \u021binem cont de prevederile Constitu\u021biei, de alte legi, parlamentul reprezint\u0103 na\u021biunea, ar trebui s\u0103 aib\u0103 mai mult cuv\u00e2nt \u0219i mai mult timp pentru a reflecta, pentru a analiza aceste acte care vin de la Bruxelles sau Strasbourg.<\/p>\n

Aceste state mai mari sunt cele care s-au reunit acum c\u00e2teva s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni la Versailles, \u0219i anume Fran\u021ba, Germania, Spania, Italia... Au f\u0103cut presiuni sau au spus c\u0103 parlamentele na\u021bionale nu pot avea mai mult\u0103 putere, mai mult cuv\u00e2nt de spus?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ei nu s-au referit direct la parlamentele na\u021bionale, ci au vorbit despre continuarea drumului spre federalizarea Europei, \u00eencerc\u00e2nd s\u0103 justifice faptul c\u0103 aceasta este, de asemenea, o consolidare a UE \u00een termeni globali, ceea ce \u00een mod clar nu este adev\u0103rat. Regatul Unit p\u0103r\u0103se\u0219te Uniunea, ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103, \u00een termeni globali, Uniunea va pierde 1\/7, 1\/8 sau 1\/10 din for\u021ba sa, va fi un partener mai slab fa\u021b\u0103 de Statele Unite sau China. Le judec declara\u021biile \u00een interesul propriilor \u021b\u0103ri \u0219i \u00een contextul alegerilor - acum \u00een Fran\u021ba, \u00een toamn\u0103 \u00een Germania, \u0219i toat\u0103 lumea se teme de situa\u021bii precum mi\u0219carea radical\u0103 anti-european\u0103, sau \u00een Austria.<\/p>\n

Din p\u0103cate, dup\u0103 declara\u021biile favoritului, domnul Macron, viitorul Europei arat\u0103 \u00een culori negre, pentru c\u0103, dac\u0103 vrea s\u0103 pun\u0103 \u00een aplicare ceea ce a promis, Europa ar putea fi \u00eenchis\u0103 \u00een anumite zone din care Polonia, de exemplu, ar putea fi exclus\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Din partea diploma\u021biei poloneze, din partea guvernului polonez, m-a\u0219 a\u0219tepta la comentarii ferme \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 echivoc. Cu toate acestea, nu a\u0219 lua foarte \u00een serios aceste cuvinte, pentru c\u0103 sunt cuvinte rostite \u00een campania electoral\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 am a\u0219tepta s\u0103 vedem ce va face pre\u0219edintele Macron dac\u0103 va deveni pre\u0219edinte, iar acest lucru nu este at\u00e2t de evident.<\/p>\n

Diploma\u021bia polonez\u0103 vorbe\u0219te despre cre\u0219terea competen\u021belor statelor na\u021bionale. Suntem siguri c\u0103 cineva sus\u021bine un astfel de concept?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cu un an \u00een urm\u0103, la Luxemburg, la o reuniune similar\u0103, am prezentat ideea unor state suverane bazate pe solidaritate, pentru a folosi limbajul lui Ioan Paul al II-lea: Europa patriei. Am \u00eenceput o discu\u021bie \u0219i putem observa c\u0103 multe \u021b\u0103ri, inclusiv reprezentan\u021bi ai Senatului francez, de exemplu, sunt \u00een favoarea consolid\u0103rii rolului parlamentelor na\u021bionale - prin introducerea dreptului de veto \u00een cazul unor proiecte europene proaste care nu sunt pe placul unui grup de state, prin posibilitatea de a prezenta propriile proiecte sau prin extinderea procesului printr-o descriere precis\u0103 a competen\u021belor institu\u021biilor UE \u0219i prin aplicarea efectiv\u0103 a principiului subsidiarit\u0103\u021bii... Consolidarea statelor na\u021bionale este un punct de vedere \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219it de mul\u021bi pre\u0219edin\u021bi de parlamente. Este doar o chestiune de a conveni asupra unui plan pentru a ajunge acolo.<\/p>\n

Nu ne este team\u0103 c\u0103 \u00eentr-o zi vom fi 27 la 1 atunci c\u00e2nd se va decide viitorul UE?<\/strong><\/p>\n

27 la 1 a fost o alegere personal\u0103, zero la unu. O decizie pro sau contra, f\u0103r\u0103 posibilitatea de a discuta, de exemplu, despre constitu\u021bie. Acest lucru este incomparabil. \u00cen plus, nu consider c\u0103 aceasta este o mare \u00eenfr\u00e2ngere pentru Polonia. Dimpotriv\u0103, dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea, Polonia, inclusiv \u00een rela\u021biile interparlamentare, este remarcat\u0103 \u0219i de cei care p\u00e2n\u0103 acum nu ne-au acordat aten\u021bie... Poate c\u0103 am \u00eent\u00e2rziat pu\u021bin \u00een a promova o alt\u0103 solu\u021bie de personal, dar, \u00een general, nu se spune nic\u0103ieri c\u0103 Polonia trebuie s\u0103 voteze pentru orice candidat.<\/p>\n

Polonia \u0219i Ungaria sunt \u00een vizorul comisarilor \u0219i politicienilor europeni. Domnul pre\u0219edinte a semnat un parteneriat strategic \u00eentre parlamentele...<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acesta se refer\u0103 la consolidarea cooper\u0103rii \u00eentre parlamentele noastre. P\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een urm\u0103 cu c\u00e2\u021biva ani, \u00een Europa nu exista o con\u0219tientizare a marelui rol, a importan\u021bei diploma\u021biei parlamentare. Am observat un anumit vid politic \u00een aceast\u0103 parte a Europei \u0219i, cu c\u00e2\u021biva ani \u00een urm\u0103, c\u00e2nd eram pre\u0219edinte al Sejm-ului, am fost chiar rugat s\u0103 ridic steagul Europei Centrale \u00een Polonia. Am fost con\u0219tien\u021bi c\u0103 \u00eent\u0103rirea cooper\u0103rii, nu \u00een detrimentul altora, ci \u00een cadrul, de exemplu, al V4. Cu Ungaria am \u00eenceput, dar sper c\u0103 aceasta nu este singura<\/p>\n

Europa de st\u00e2nga a fost \u00eengrozit\u0103 de decizia premierului Orban de a \u00eenchide o universitate finan\u021bat\u0103 de funda\u021biile Soros. Ce p\u0103rere ave\u021bi despre asta?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nu a\u0219 dori s\u0103 comentez acest lucru, acestea sunt probleme maghiare, dar nu sunt surprins \u00een mod deosebit de astfel de decizii ale autorit\u0103\u021bilor.<\/p>\n

La invita\u021bia pre\u0219edintelui Parlamentului, pre\u0219edin\u021bii parlamentelor vor veni la Var\u0219ovia \u00een luna mai. Care politicieni?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I-am invitat pe pre\u0219edin\u021bii parlamentelor din toate \u021b\u0103rile din Europa Central\u0103, Central\u0103 \u0219i de Est, din Europa de Nord \u0219i de Sud, adic\u0103 din Scandinavia p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een \u021b\u0103rile din Caucaz, din Kazahstan p\u00e2n\u0103 la Marea Adriatic\u0103, din Mediterana, inclusiv Turcia. I-am invitat pe pre\u0219edin\u021bii parlamentelor din aceste \u021b\u0103ri, fiind con\u0219tien\u021bi de faptul c\u0103 sunt \u021b\u0103ri diferite: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaidjan... Peste tot exist\u0103 diverse dispute sau conflicte, cum ar fi Nagorno-Karabah. Cu toate acestea, consider\u0103m c\u0103, tr\u0103ind \u00een aceast\u0103 parte a Europei, \u00eentre Berlin \u0219i Rusia, trebuie s\u0103 ne \u00eent\u00e2lnim din c\u00e2nd \u00een c\u00e2nd, fie \u0219i numai pentru a face schimb de informa\u021bii, \u00een special cu acele \u021b\u0103ri care sunt \u00een afara Uniunii Europene, \u0219i exist\u0103 trei astfel de \u021b\u0103ri. Prin natura noastr\u0103, nu invit\u0103m Rusia, dar trebuie s\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim \u00een termeni de securitate \u0219i, de asemenea, s\u0103 c\u0103ut\u0103m un acord cu vecinii no\u0219tri de la est \u0219i dincolo de ei. Georgienii, de exemplu, doresc foarte mult s\u0103 coopereze, exist\u0103 Parteneriatul estic, care este un instrument nefolosit, \u0219i apoi exist\u0103 problema securit\u0103\u021bii Europei \u00een ansamblu \u0219i, \u00een special, a regiunii noastre, Europa de Est. Nu putem permite ca politica rus\u0103 s\u0103 fie urm\u0103rit\u0103 prin reabsorb\u021bia acelor \u021b\u0103ri care \u0219i-au rec\u0103p\u0103tat independen\u021ba acum dou\u0103zeci \u0219i ceva de ani. Cel mai bun exemplu \u00een acest sens este r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina.<\/p>\n

A\u0219adar, acest summit nu va fi despre Uniunea European\u0103, ci despre o regiune mare? O bucat\u0103 de lume va fi la Var\u0219ovia...<\/strong><\/p>\n

Da, am invitat 31 de \u021b\u0103ri. Unele \u021b\u0103ri au dou\u0103 camere, a\u0219a c\u0103 va fi un grup mare. Nu exist\u0103 doar o divizare \u00eentre cre\u0219tinism \u0219i islam, protestantism, ortodoxie... to\u021bi tr\u0103iesc \u00een state organizate \u0219i vor s\u0103 tr\u0103iasc\u0103 cu vecini normali, nu s\u0103 construiasc\u0103 ziduri. Am d\u0103r\u00e2mat aceste ziduri acum dou\u0103zeci \u0219i ceva de ani, iar solidaritatea ne-a ajutat s\u0103 facem acest lucru. Ar trebui s\u0103 le reconstruim? Probabil c\u0103 nu.<\/p>\n

R\u0103m\u00e2ne de v\u0103zut dac\u0103 aceste ziduri nu vor fi reconstruite de \u021b\u0103rile din nucleul UE, revenind la firul acordului de la Versailles al unei Europe cu dou\u0103 viteze....<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sunt optimist \u00een aceast\u0103 privin\u021b\u0103. Mi-e greu s\u0103-mi imaginez c\u0103 germanii, italienii sau francezii ar dori s\u0103 se \u00eenchid\u0103, deoarece economia german\u0103, de exemplu, depinde de cooperarea cu \u021b\u0103rile din Europa Central\u0103. Faptul c\u0103 o parte semnificativ\u0103 a economiei poloneze este legat\u0103 de economia german\u0103 \u00een propor\u021bie de peste 50 %, la fel ca \u00een cazul Grupului de la Vi\u0219egrad, al Balcanilor etc., \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 politicienii ar trebui s\u0103 caute o solu\u021bie \u00een beneficiul tuturor \u021b\u0103rilor, nu doar al uneia, iar acesta este obiectivul nostru.<\/p>\n

Domnule pre\u0219edinte, sunte\u021bi din Przemy\u015bl, problemele polono-ucrainene sunt foarte mari \u0219i foarte apropiate acolo. Kievul se re\u021bine <\/strong>legalizarea comemor\u0103rilor poloneze \u00een Ucraina.\u00a0<\/strong>IPN a anun\u021bat c\u0103 va ini\u021bia suspendarea autoriza\u021biilor de c\u0103utare a mormintelor \u0219i de cur\u0103\u021bare a locurilor memoriale poloneze din Ucraina. <\/strong>\u0218i iat\u0103 reac\u021bia la lichidarea monumentului UPA din Polonia....<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cu siguran\u021b\u0103, institu\u021biile statului polonez responsabile de aceste probleme ar trebui s\u0103 reac\u021bioneze foarte clar \u0219i s\u0103 clarifice, \u00een primul r\u00e2nd, credibilitatea acestui tip de informa\u021bii, iar dac\u0103 \u00eentr-adev\u0103r omologul ucrainean al IPN polonez a \u00eenceput astfel de ac\u021biuni, atunci trebuie s\u0103 existe o reac\u021bie din partea diploma\u021biei poloneze \u0219i a autorit\u0103\u021bilor de stat, inclusiv a IPN polonez, a\u0219a v\u0103d eu lucrurile. Acesta este un anumit trecut care indic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 autorit\u0103\u021bile statului, vorbesc din perspectiva polonez\u0103, ar trebui s\u0103 fie vigilente. Nu trebuie s\u0103 se ridice monumente ilegale de acest tip, iar autorit\u0103\u021bile locale trebuie s\u0103 aib\u0103 grij\u0103 s\u0103 nu \u00eenchid\u0103 ochii dac\u0103 exist\u0103 monumente ilegale, mai ales \u00een locuri sensibile, pentru c\u0103 se ajunge la situa\u021bii precum cea pe care o avem \u00een acest moment.<\/p>\n

Cooperarea interstatal\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 se bazeze pe adev\u0103r \u0219i pe clarificarea istoricului, chiar \u0219i \u00een cele mai dificile situa\u021bii.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Genocidul comis de forma\u021biunile Armatei Insurgente Ucrainene (UPA) \u00eempotriva cet\u0103\u021benilor polonezi de diferite na\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bi: polonezi, ucraineni, evrei \u0219i al\u021bii \u00een timpul celei de-a doua Republici trebuie evaluat \u0219i explicat, deoarece nu poate fi uitat \u0219i trebuie explicat \u00een lumea civilizat\u0103. Nu putem s\u0103 uit\u0103m \u0219i s\u0103 trecem cu vederea acest lucru.<\/p>\n

Ucrainenii refuz\u0103 s\u0103 accepte adev\u0103rul despre Volhynia, politicienii ucraineni r\u0103spund: Noi avem un p\u0103cat, dar \u0219i voi ave\u021bi un p\u0103cat....<\/strong><\/p>\n

Chestiunea trebuie clarificat\u0103, dar exist\u0103 at\u00e2t de multe fapte, at\u00e2t de multe dovezi \u00een acest sens, \u00eenc\u00e2t chestiunea trebuie clarificat\u0103, de\u0219i nu trebuie s\u0103 ascund\u0103 alte forme, domenii de cooperare \u0219i situa\u021bia privind securitatea Europei, a Poloniei, a Ucrainei \u0219i a altor \u021b\u0103ri din aceast\u0103 parte a lumii \u00een fa\u021ba agresiunii cu care ne confrunt\u0103m \u00een prezent din partea vecinului nostru estic.<\/p>\n

\u0218i nu exist\u0103 oare o asimetrie \u00een rela\u021biile dintre Polonia \u0219i Ucraina? Politicieni polonezi pe \u0219i prezen\u021bi la Majdanek, sus\u021bin\u00e2nd aspira\u021biile Ucrainei \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te eliminarea vizelor \u0219i diverse facilit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i vorbind despre conflict, dorind sanc\u021biuni pentru Rusia, pe deasupra peste un milion de cet\u0103\u021beni ucraineni \u00een Polonia, iar pe undeva exist\u0103 un dezechilibru \u00een rela\u021biile polono-ucrainene....<\/strong><\/p>\n

Trebuie s\u0103 existe un echilibru \u00een acest domeniu. \u00cen prezent, exist\u0103 aproape 2 milioane de ucraineni care au r\u0103d\u0103cini poloneze, de la str\u0103bunici, chiar mai mult, \u0219i ar trebui s\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 li se acorde cet\u0103\u021benie polonez\u0103 sau cel pu\u021bin o Cart\u0103 polonez\u0103. Acest lucru deschide o situa\u021bie foarte complicat\u0103. V\u0103d aici o c\u0103utare a cooper\u0103rii acolo unde este de a\u0219teptat, unde este de dorit, din punctul de vedere polonez pentru cet\u0103\u021beanul polonez care tr\u0103ie\u0219te la grani\u021ba cu Ucraina, dar \u0219i din punctul de vedere al intereselor \u00eentregului stat, pentru a proteja aspecte fundamentale - sentimentul de securitate \u0219i faptul c\u0103 exist\u0103 un stat previzibil dincolo de grani\u021ba noastr\u0103 estic\u0103, care nu se \u00eenarmeaz\u0103 \u00eempotriva Poloniei.<\/p>\n

S\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la ceea ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u00een Polonia. Premierul Beata Szyd\u0142o a convocat o \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 special\u0103, i-a invitat pe to\u021bi mini\u0219trii, vicemini\u0219trii, pentru a spune c\u0103 printre ei sunt c\u00e2\u021biva care se g\u00e2ndesc mai mult la cariera lor politic\u0103 \u0219i nu la comunitate... U\u0219a este deschis\u0103 pentru cei care vor s\u0103 joace individual. Aceasta a fost o reac\u021bie la cuvintele ministrului pentru digitalizare. Exist\u0103 o suprastimulare \u00een guvern?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nu am auzit de astfel de situa\u021bii, dezacorduri sau diferen\u021be de opinie apar \u00een fiecare guvern. Pot spune c\u0103 actualul guvern este cel mai stabil \u00een compara\u021bie cu guvernele anterioare. V\u0103 reamintesc c\u0103 al doilea an al acestui guvern se apropie de sf\u00e2r\u0219it. Cred c\u0103 primul ministru a f\u0103cut un lucru bun, pun\u00e2nd lucrurile \u00een acest fel, pentru c\u0103 nu ar trebui s\u0103 existe diferen\u021be de opinie articulate \u00een exterior. Dac\u0103 cineva face parte dintr-un guvern, dintr-o echip\u0103, atunci juc\u0103m pentru un singur scop, \u0219i nu po\u021bi fi individualist \u0219i s\u0103 faci un cerc... Ei bine, dac\u0103 nu e\u0219ti un Gadocha....<\/p>\n

A\u0219adar, subiectul reconstruc\u021biei guvernamentale nu se afl\u0103 pe agenda politicienilor PiS din s\u0103lile puterii?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nu am \u00eent\u00e2lnit acest lucru. \u00cen calitate de pre\u0219edinte al Sejm-ului, m\u0103 asigur c\u0103 lucr\u0103rile se desf\u0103\u0219oar\u0103 \u00een conformitate cu normele \u00een vigoare.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Vor fi pedepsi\u021bi parlamentarii opozi\u021biei?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Unii deputa\u021bi au primit sanc\u021biuni financiare, dar nu \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu 16 decembrie, ci \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu \u00eenc\u0103lc\u0103ri ale regulamentului de procedur\u0103 pe tot parcursul anului 2016. A\u0219 dori s\u0103 v\u0103 reamintesc c\u0103 deciziile privind astfel de sanc\u021biuni sunt luate de c\u0103tre prezidiul Sejm-ului \u0219i trebuie s\u0103 existe o majoritate, pre\u0219edintele nu are astfel de puteri de unul singur. \u0218tim care este majoritatea \u00een acest moment \u0219i c\u0103 pre\u0219edintele Sejmului \u00een aceast\u0103 configura\u021bie... C\u0103ut\u0103m o solu\u021bie pentru a \u00eent\u0103ri regulile Sejmului, pentru a spori securitatea \u0219i pentru a mobiliza mai mult parlamentarii s\u0103 se comporte conform normelor acceptate care vor trebui consacrate....<\/p>\n

\u00cen c\u00e2t timp va avea loc reforma sistemului judiciar din Polonia?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acest lucru depinde de activitatea diferitelor comisii parlamentare. Comisia pentru justi\u021bie \u0219i drepturile omului lucreaz\u0103 \u00een prezent la dou\u0103 proiecte de lege - privind Consiliul Na\u021bional al Magistraturii \u0219i \u0218coala Magistraturii. Nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 aceast\u0103 comisie va reu\u0219i s\u0103 preg\u0103teasc\u0103 un raport pentru urm\u0103toarea \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 a Sejm-ului, peste dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, dar a\u0219tept\u0103m cu r\u0103bdare. Cred c\u0103 este bine s\u0103 analiz\u0103m serios aceste proiecte, s\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim la ele, dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea bune, rezolv\u00e2nd o serie de prevederi care men\u021bineau diverse forme de patologizare a vie\u021bii, de deta\u0219are de realitate, dar este decizia parlamentarilor.<\/p>\n

Cursa pentru sondaje continu\u0103. Un centru a f\u0103cut un sondaj privind starea de spirit a polonezilor \u0219i a constatat c\u0103 PiS a pierdut conducerea \u00een fa\u021ba PO.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exist\u0103 aproximativ o duzin\u0103 de sondaje telefonice \u00een fiecare lun\u0103... Cele mai fiabile sunt sondajele, \u0219i exist\u0103 trei dintre ele, realizate direct cu cet\u0103\u021benii, care arat\u0103 c\u0103 PiS are sprijinul a 45 % dintre cet\u0103\u021benii polonezi, cei care sunt hot\u0103r\u00e2\u021bi s\u0103 mearg\u0103 la vot, iar acesta este pentru mine sondajul care face autoritate.<\/p>\n

Ve\u021bi convoca conferin\u021be de pres\u0103 \u00eenaintea \u0219edin\u021belor Sejm-ului?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dac\u0103 exist\u0103 o astfel de a\u0219teptare generalizat\u0103, atunci da, dar nu cred c\u0103 pre\u0219edintele Sejm-ului este acolo pentru a convoca conferin\u021be de pres\u0103. Exist\u0103 biroul de pres\u0103 al Cancelariei Sejmului, cu un director care func\u021bioneaz\u0103 foarte bine, o echip\u0103 bun\u0103... Rolul pre\u0219edintelui Sejmului este de a reprezenta Sejm-ul \u00een exterior, de comun acord, dar nu neap\u0103rat prin conferin\u021be de pres\u0103. Dar dac\u0103 exist\u0103 o astfel de a\u0219teptare - da\u021bi-i drumul, sunt la dispozi\u021bia dumneavoastr\u0103.<\/p>\n

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