{"id":27216,"date":"2023-01-02T10:18:10","date_gmt":"2023-01-02T09:18:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=27216"},"modified":"2023-01-03T10:55:01","modified_gmt":"2023-01-03T09:55:01","slug":"pap-marek-kuchcinski-o-europie-karpat-polityka-na-miekko","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/ro\/wydarzenia\/pap-marek-kuchcinski-o-europie-karpat-polityka-na-miekko\/","title":{"rendered":"PAP. Marek Kuchci\u0144ski despre Europa Carpa\u021bilor: Politic\u0103 bl\u00e2nd\u0103"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: De ani de zile pilota\u021bi un program numit Europa Carpa\u021bilor, care, pe scurt, \u00ee\u0219i propune s\u0103 consolideze cooperarea dintre \u021b\u0103rile din Europa Central\u0103. Este o idee bun\u0103, dar m\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 este realist\u0103. Uniunea European\u0103 a fost, de asemenea, o idee frumoas\u0103 a statelor na\u021bionale care coopereaz\u0103 \u00eentre ele, dar s-a dovedit c\u0103 interesele conflictuale ale \u021b\u0103rilor individuale au f\u0103cut aceast\u0103 cooperare foarte dificil\u0103. Nu \u021bi-e team\u0103 c\u0103 Europa Carpa\u021bilor poate fi la fel? P\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103, \u0219tim c\u0103, de exemplu, interesele Ungariei sau Serbiei sunt altele dec\u00e2t, s\u0103 zicem, ale Poloniei sau ale Rom\u00e2niei.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Marek Kuchci\u0144ski: \u0218i aceasta este provocarea - de a consolida cooperarea \u021b\u0103rilor europene \u0219i, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, de a p\u0103stra bog\u0103\u021bia lor divers\u0103 \u0219i de a c\u0103uta o solu\u021bie \u00een zonele \u00een care aceast\u0103 cooperare este dificil\u0103. \u00cen plus, realitatea este foarte schimb\u0103toare, p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103, p\u00e2n\u0103 de cur\u00e2nd Slovacia era considerat\u0103 un stat pro-rus, iar ast\u0103zi este una dintre \u021b\u0103rile care sprijin\u0103 cel mai mult Ucraina, \u0219i \u00een termeni militari. La fel \u0219i Cehia. Indiferent de cursul uneori greu de \u00een\u021beles al evenimentelor din politica actual\u0103, Europa Central\u0103 a dezvoltat \u00een ultimii ani con\u0219tientizarea interdependen\u021bei \u021b\u0103rilor din aceast\u0103 regiune, unde succesul unor \u021b\u0103ri \u00eenseamn\u0103 succes mai mare sau mai mic, dar totu\u0219i succesul. a altora. Acesta este un mare capital pentru viitor.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Revenind la Europa Carpa\u021bilor \u2013 scopul acestei ini\u021biative a fost pu\u021bin abstract \u0219i, s\u0103-i spunem, soft \u2013 s\u0103 permit\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lniri \u0219i s\u0103 invite diverse institu\u021bii, medii \u0219i persoane din opt \u021b\u0103ri central-europene situate \u00een Carpa\u021bi s\u0103 coopereze. Suntem conecta\u021bi nu numai prin geografie \u0219i teritoriu, ci \u0219i prin probleme comune de natur\u0103 social\u0103, natural\u0103, de comunicare \u0219i politic\u0103 de dezvoltare. Aceste leg\u0103turi sunt deja destul de puternice, av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere c\u0103 conferin\u021bele Europa Carpatic\u0103 se \u021bin cu regularitate de 2 decenii, ceea ce face ca acest eveniment s\u0103 fie unul dintre cele mai vechi din regiune, \u0219i chiar din Europa.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>De\u0219i istoria arat\u0103 c\u0103 Carpa\u021bii s-au desp\u0103r\u021bit uneori, ap\u0103r\u00e2ndu-i cu succes pe cei care locuiesc \u00een sud \u00eempotriva diverselor invazii dinspre nord sau est, dar \u00een acela\u0219i timp ace\u0219ti mun\u021bi se leag\u0103 \u2013 tocmai din cauza intereselor. Voi da dou\u0103 exemple. Prima: niciuna dintre \u021b\u0103rile situate \u00een aceast\u0103 zon\u0103 nu va putea face fa\u021b\u0103 singur\u0103 - \u00eentr-o perspectiv\u0103 multigenera\u021bional\u0103 - cu furnizarea de ap\u0103 potabil\u0103 pentru societ\u0103\u021bile lor.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Carpa\u021bii sunt un rezervor de ap\u0103 pentru aceast\u0103 parte a Europei.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Da, este. \u0218i numai cooperarea interna\u021bional\u0103 poate oferi suficiente resurse ale acestei \u201eresurse strategice pentru oameni\u201d. \u0218i nu este vorba doar de treptarea diferitelor zone - a\u0219a cum se poate observa \u00een Polonia sau Ungaria, de exemplu, ci \u0219i de stoparea sc\u0103derii nivelului apei subterane, f\u0103c\u00e2nd zonele forestiere capabile s\u0103 re\u021bin\u0103 apa \u00eentr-o m\u0103sur\u0103 mai mare dec\u00e2t \u00een prezent, sau prevenirea inunda\u021biilor catastrofale.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Al doilea exemplu este recunosc\u0103tor din punct de vedere politic \u0219i important din punct de vedere ideologic: este vorba despre protec\u021bia naturii \u0219i a peisajului. Carpa\u021bii sunt zona care este cea mai abundent\u0103 \u00een diferite specii de animale \u0219i plante din \u00eentreaga Europ\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Exist\u0103, de asemenea, mult\u0103 vegeta\u021bie endemic\u0103 care nu se g\u0103se\u0219te \u00een alt\u0103 parte.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: De aceea trebuie protejate, nu doar \u00een zone limitate, precum parcurile na\u021bionale, precum parcurile Tatra sau Bieszczady - probabil singura rezerva\u021bie tripartit\u0103 a biosferei din lume situat\u0103 \u00een trei \u021b\u0103ri \u00eenvecinate - sau delta Dun\u0103rii. \u00cen opinia mea, cea mai mare parte a teritoriului Carpa\u021bilor ar trebui protejat\u0103 ca patrimoniu natural \u0219i cultural de c\u0103tre UNESCO. Mai este un lucru important - Carpa\u021bii au o diversitate cultural\u0103, lingvistic\u0103, etnic\u0103 \u0219i etnografic\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 precedent. \u0218i, de asemenea, singura arhitectur\u0103 sacr\u0103 din lemn din lume: biserici \u0219i biserici ortodoxe, adesea dat\u00e2nd din Evul Mediu. Nu apreciem asta. Spunem \u201eslovaci\u201d, \u201emaghiari\u201d, \u201eucraineni\u201d, \u201epolonezi\u201d, \u201ecehi\u201d, \u201erom\u00e2ni\u201d, \u201es\u00e2rbi\u201d, \u201ecroa\u021bi\u201d, dar printre ei aceste popoare sau grupuri etnice de munte sunt foarte diverse, \u0219i lingvistic. Acesta este unul dintre fundamentele bog\u0103\u021biei na\u021biunilor din Europa Central\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Uneori este suficient s\u0103 mergi dintr-un sat \u00een altul, tot \u00een Polonia, pentru a auzi o cu totul alt\u0103 limb\u0103. Unele \u201emazurc\u0103\u201d, altele se \u00eenmoaie...<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: \u0218i aceast\u0103 diversitate ar trebui s\u0103 fie asigurat\u0103 \u00een primul r\u00e2nd de state, dar \u0219i de organiza\u021biile interna\u021bionale - \u00een opinia mea, UNESCO ar trebui s\u0103 protejeze \u00eentregi Mun\u021bi Carpa\u021bi: regiunile Orawa, Spisz, Podhala\u0144skie, S\u0105deckie... cultura Lachs \u0219i montanii de la Beskizi la Bucovina rom\u00e2neasc\u0103... Pentru c\u0103 fiecare sat E diferit\u0103. Dac\u0103 privim harta Carpa\u021bilor de sus, de la mare distan\u021b\u0103, vom vedea c\u0103 aceast\u0103 mare diversitate de oameni, natur\u0103 \u0219i obiceiuri se afl\u0103 \u00eentr-o zon\u0103 restr\u00e2ns\u0103. \u0218ti\u021bi c\u00e2\u021bi c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103tori ai Premiului Nobel a dat Europa Central\u0103 lumii? Aproape 80! Milan Kundera a spus at\u00e2t de frumos: diversitate maxim\u0103 \u00een teritoriu minim. Asa si este. Diversitate mare \u00een compara\u021bie cu, de exemplu, zona de limb\u0103 german\u0103 sau Rusia.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Cu toate acestea, \u00een ciuda acestei diversit\u0103\u021bi carpatice, venim din str\u0103mo\u0219i comuni - de exemplu, hu\u021buli, care au umblat \u0219i au fondat a\u0219ez\u0103ri.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Valahi \u0219i hu\u021buli, este adev\u0103rat. Acum c\u00e2\u021biva ani am avut o situa\u021bie interesant\u0103 \u00een vecin\u0103tatea Hoverlei (cel mai \u00eenalt v\u00e2rf al Beskidilor - 2061 m deasupra nivelului m\u0103rii - \u0219i cel mai \u00eenalt v\u00e2rf al Ucrainei): c\u00e2nd prietenul meu \u0219i cu mine urcam pe munte, ne-am \u00eent\u00e2lnit cu un Hu\u021bul. , un munteni \u00een redingot\u0103, cu un topor \u00een spatele br\u00e2ului \u0219i un b\u0103\u021b gros, merg\u00e2nd pe poteca de munte . L-am salutat \u00een polonez\u0103, s-a oprit \u0219i a \u00eenceput s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103 cu noi \u00een \u201eHighlander Polish\u201d rupt, cu accent Madiarski. Un schimb at\u00e2t de lipsit de sens, dar din motive sentimentale, un schimb dr\u0103gu\u021b de genul \u201eMergi \u00een v\u00e2rf, prieteni? E un drum lung... c\u00e2nd te vei \u00eentoarce, etc.\u201d Spiritul lui Vincenz este \u00eenc\u0103 acolo! Am avut un incident similar \u00een Mun\u021bii Bieszczady, pe versan\u021bii Otryt, la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul anilor 1970, unde \u00eenc\u0103 nu existau trasee \u0219i p\u00e2rtiile abia \u00eencepuser\u0103 s\u0103 fie construite. \u0218i evenimente at\u00e2t de mici, combinate cu frumuse\u021bea \u0219i diversitatea Carpa\u021bilor, ne-au f\u0103cut s\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim cum s\u0103-i protej\u0103m. De asemenea, aceast\u0103 natur\u0103 minunat\u0103, peisaj, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 nu fie distruse de infrastructura neconsiderat\u0103. Am decis c\u0103 din aceast\u0103 parte trebuie s\u0103 intr\u0103m \u00een politic\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Moale?<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Da, doar u\u0219or, f\u0103r\u0103 a impune altora niciun concept inventat de oficiali \u0219i exper\u021bi, ci mai degrab\u0103 atrage din oameni, inspir\u0103-te din experien\u021ba lor de via\u021b\u0103, stimuleaz\u0103 schimbul de idei \u0219i idei. \u0218i acest lucru d\u0103 rezultate bune, deoarece v\u0103 permite s\u0103 reconcilia\u021bi a\u0219tept\u0103rile reziden\u021bilor, nevoia lor natural\u0103 de a tr\u0103i \u00eentr-un mediu curat \u0219i frumos \u0219i, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, s\u0103 implementa\u021bi mai pe deplin politica de cooperare \u00eentre \u021b\u0103ri \u0219i regiuni. Aceasta este o abordare conservatoare. Desigur, diferite \u021b\u0103ri au interese diferite, uneori conflictuale - politice, economice - dar, \u00een general, acest lucru nu se aplic\u0103 problemelor pe termen lung, inclusiv conservarea naturii, diversitatea, grija pentru Carpa\u021bi.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: A\u021bi v\u0103zut vreo realizare legat\u0103 de aceast\u0103 politic\u0103 \u201esoft\u201d carpatic\u0103? Pentru c\u0103 nu m\u0103 pot g\u00e2ndi dec\u00e2t la Via Carpatia \u0219i la redyk carpatic.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Chiar \u0219i o dat\u0103 sau de dou\u0103 ori am avut patronajul acestor migra\u021bii de oi \u00een Carpa\u021bi de-a lungul traseului muntenesc, este o ini\u021biativ\u0103 grozav\u0103. Dar exist\u0103 \u0219i alte succese mai nem\u0103surate, cum ar fi construirea unui climat \u0219i a unei atmosfere pozitive pentru cooperare. Consider c\u0103 Grupul de la Vi\u015fegrad s-a consolidat clar dup\u0103 2010, mai ales \u00een rela\u0163iile cu Uniunea European\u0103 \u2013 a fost mai u\u015for pentru guvernele noastre s\u0103 ac\u0163ioneze \u00eempreun\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd atmosfera politic\u0103 era pozitiv\u0103. Cel\u0103lalt efect al s\u0103u, \u00eentr-o oarecare m\u0103sur\u0103, este Ini\u021biativa Trei M\u0103ri \u0219i, \u00een general, \u00eendreptarea aten\u021biei c\u0103tre cooperarea \u00een Europa Central\u0103 pe linia nord-sud, trec\u00e2nd grani\u021bele UE, Schengen sau zona euro. De mul\u021bi ani dezvolt\u0103m rela\u021bii cu Ucraina. Ne-am dorit o cooperare realizat\u0103 nu numai \u00eentre guverne, pre\u0219edin\u021bi, parlamente, ci \u0219i la diferite alte niveluri - de c\u0103tre autorit\u0103\u021bile locale, ONG-uri, autorit\u0103\u021bi locale, universit\u0103\u021bi, comunit\u0103\u021bi locale \u0219i regionale. Sunt \u00eent\u00e2lniri uimitoare, at\u00e2t de aproape. \u00cemi amintesc cum \u00een Europa Carpa\u021bilor din W\u0119gierska G\u00f3rka, mama fra\u021bilor Golec a povestit cum i-a crescut, cum conducea casa. Vorbea o limb\u0103 local\u0103 frumoas\u0103 \u0219i oamenii o ascultau ca prin magie.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: \u0218tia\u021bi c\u0103 anul acesta, pe 21 aprilie, \u00een comuna W\u0119gierska G\u00f3rka, a avut loc cel de-al X-lea Dialog Jubiliar Dictat \u201eDemnitatea montanului nu se va pierde niciodat\u0103\u201d. Montanii \u00ee\u0219i pre\u021buiesc vorbirea, dar \u0219i dansul \u0219i muzica.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Locuitorii din Carpa\u021bi sunt m\u00e2ndri de mo\u0219tenirea lor, sunt m\u00e2ndri de ea. Au \u00eenc\u0103 un lucru pe care \u00eel pre\u021buiesc foarte mult: un mare respect pentru natur\u0103. Au \u00eentip\u0103rit \u00een genele lor c\u0103, dac\u0103 tr\u0103ie\u0219ti \u00een natur\u0103, trebuie s\u0103 o protejezi \u0219i s\u0103 o respec\u021bi, s\u0103 cau\u021bi armonia \u00een via\u021b\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 te inspiri, tot \u00een art\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Prin urmare, pentru noi \u00een Drept \u0219i Justi\u021bie, principiul dezvolt\u0103rii durabile este \u00een\u021beles nu numai ca o dezvoltare uniform\u0103 a tuturor regiunilor Poloniei, ci \u0219i ca un echilibru \u00eentre ecologie \u0219i economie. Nu reu\u0219im \u00eentotdeauna, dar \u00eencerc\u0103m, \u00eencerc\u0103m.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Climatul bun pentru cooperare deja men\u021bionat este de asemenea important pentru c\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 ast\u0103zi, \u00een secolul al XXI-lea, putem observa efectele \u0219ederii ani de zile \u00een zona ruten\u0103 asupra \u021b\u0103rilor noastre: p\u00e2n\u0103 de cur\u00e2nd, cooperarea noastr\u0103 se limita practic la chestiuni locale \u0219i ne-am uitat suspicios unul la altul. Ocupa\u021bia sovietic\u0103 ne-a f\u0103cut s\u0103 ne pierdem con\u0219tientizarea cartierului nostru de lung\u0103 durat\u0103 \u0219i a istoriei comune. Acum este posibil \u0219i necesar s\u0103 reconstruim aceast\u0103 identitate central-european\u0103, iar astfel de \u00eent\u00e2lniri informale sunt un bun prilej pentru a face acest lucru. Conferin\u021bele Europei Carpa\u021bilor faciliteaz\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnirile \u0219i dialogul, ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 grani\u021bele nu mai reprezint\u0103 o barier\u0103 psihologic\u0103. Dar totul este \u00eenc\u0103 \u00eenaintea noastr\u0103, pentru c\u0103 aceasta este munc\u0103 de genera\u021bii \u2013 s\u0103 ajungem la situa\u021bia care este \u00een zona alpin\u0103, la grani\u021ba germano-francez\u0103 sau \u00een \u021b\u0103rile Benelux.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Dar deja am reu\u0219it s\u0103 revenim la discu\u021biile despre construirea unei infrastructuri rutiere comune \u00een sec\u021biunea nord-sud a Europei - m\u0103 refer la Via Carpatia, ideea c\u0103reia a fost anun\u021bat\u0103 la \u00eenceputul anilor 1990, am men\u021binut aceast\u0103 ini\u021biativ\u0103 toat\u0103 timp, pentru a reveni la el \u00een 2015. Ideea Via Carpatia nu a fost tratat\u0103 \u00een serios la \u00eenceput, am auzit adesea \u201e\u00eent\u00e2i trebuie s\u0103 existe un argument economic pentru a o construi\u201d, adic\u0103 c\u00e2te ma\u0219ini trec pe acest drum - la acea vreme nu exista o autostrad\u0103 \u00eentre Lublin \u0219i Rzesz\u00f3w - ma\u0219inile trec zilnic. \u0218i s-a dovedit c\u0103 nu a fost suficient pentru a rentabiliza construc\u021bia autostr\u0103zii. Am \u00eencercat s\u0103-i convingem pe conduc\u0103torii vremii c\u0103 acest argument are o importan\u021b\u0103 secundar\u0103, mai \u00eent\u00e2i trebuie luat\u0103 o decizie politic\u0103, pentru c\u0103 abia dup\u0103 ce vom construi un drum decent, vom putea vorbi despre cre\u0219terea traficului, \u00een timp ce politic este vorba de - \u00een primul r\u00e2nd - conectarea nordului Europei \u0219i a statelor baltice cu \u0219i \u00een al doilea r\u00e2nd - \u0219tiind c\u0103 Via Carpatia va str\u0103bate estul Poloniei, adic\u0103 zone mai pu\u021bin dezvoltate din punct de vedere economic, face ca fiecare kilometru de drum bun s\u0103 se traduc\u0103 \u00een locuri de munc\u0103 permanente - acesta a fost calculul nostru.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Via Carpatia nu se limiteaz\u0103 la un singur drum.<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Da, trebuie s\u0103 fie nucleul \u00eentregii re\u021bele de filiale care duce, de exemplu, la Gda\u0144sk sau Odesa. Dar nu numai acest drum este de a lega nordul cu sudul Europei. Ideea, care este deja \u00een curs de finalizare, presupune \u0219i realizarea unei c\u0103i ferate de mare vitez\u0103 Var\u0219ovia-Brno-Bratislava-Budapesta, \u0219i apoi poate mai departe, p\u00e2n\u0103 la Belgrad. Pentru \u00eenceput, vei putea conduce p\u00e2n\u0103 la Budapesta \u00een c\u00e2teva ore. Pe vremea Austro-Ungariei, puteai ajunge de la Lviv la Cracovia \u00een trei ore cu trenul, ca s\u0103 nu mai vorbim de Budapesta \u2013 de\u0219i asta a fost acum 100 de ani \u2013 nu? Ast\u0103zi avem planuri ambi\u021bioase, dorim ca alte drumuri \u0219i c\u0103i ferate s\u0103 circule prin Podkarpacie \u0219i Polonia Mic\u0103 spre sud, de exemplu \u00een Malhowice, Nowy \u0141upk\u00f3w \u0219i Muszyna, prin Slovacia, Ungaria \u0219i mai departe. Construc\u021bia drumului S3 spre sud \u00een vestul Poloniei este, de asemenea, un succes, iar \u00een W\u0119gierska G\u00f3rka, adic\u0103 \u00een \u015al\u0105sk \u017bywiecki \u0219i Cieszyn, finaliz\u0103m autostrada spre sud... Da, dureaz\u0103 mul\u021bi ani \u0219i rolul nostru este s\u0103 conving\u0103 guvernele care nu \u00eentotdeauna acord\u0103 prioritate unor astfel de proiecte, s\u0103 lucreze \u00eempreun\u0103 la ele. Variaz\u0103, de exemplu, exist\u0103 probleme cu guvernul slovac, care ezit\u0103 cumva s\u0103 se implice \u00een Via Carpatia. Slovacii au am\u00e2nat p\u00e2n\u0103 acum finalizarea construc\u021biei unui tronson de c\u00e2teva zeci de kilometri pentru urm\u0103torii c\u00e2\u021biva ani, ceea ce \u00eengreuneaz\u0103 comunicarea.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Poate c\u0103 acum c\u0103 Uniunea European\u0103 a recunoscut Via Carpatia ca o cale de comunicare cheie, va \u00eencepe construc\u021bia?<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: Da, \u00eei poate \u00eencuraja pe slovaci, pentru c\u0103 vor primi fonduri suplimentare pentru asta - c\u00e2teva sute de milioane de euro, deci nu vor trebui s\u0103-l construiasc\u0103 din bugetul propriu, ci din fondurile UE - \u0219i aceasta este o \u0219ans\u0103 de a convinge Prietenii slovaci s\u0103 o fac\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 din acest drum o prioritate.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">PAP: Cum se raporteaz\u0103 Europa Carpa\u021bilor la ideea Ini\u021biativei Trei M\u0103ri?<\/mark><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: The Three Seas Initiative este o organiza\u021bie \u00eenfiin\u021bat\u0103 ca urmare a unui acord \u00eentre guvernele \u0219i pre\u0219edin\u021bii a 12 \u021b\u0103ri ale Uniunii Europene, datorit\u0103 c\u0103ruia a fost creat un fond pentru sprijinirea proiectelor de creare a infrastructurii de transport, energie \u0219i digital\u0103 \u00een regiune. De asemenea, \u00eel \u00eencuraj\u0103m s\u0103 se deschid\u0103 c\u0103tre \u021b\u0103rile din afara UE - Balcanii \u0219i Parteneriatul Estic. Cu toate acestea, Three Seas Initiative - 3M - este o entitate sanc\u021bionat\u0103 legal \u0219i finan\u021bat\u0103 sub form\u0103 de fond, care este pur comercial - nu exist\u0103 subven\u021bii de stat. Europa Carpa\u021bilor, \u00een schimb, este o platform\u0103 de \u00eent\u00e2lniri \u0219i conversa\u021bii pe toate subiectele, dificile \u0219i u\u0219oare, unde po\u021bi discuta \u0219i negocia diverse probleme f\u0103r\u0103 proceduri rigide \u0219i protocoale diplomatice. Aceast\u0103 lips\u0103 de formalism faciliteaz\u0103 dialogul \u0219i este cunoscut faptul c\u0103 multe chestiuni sunt, de asemenea, tratate \u00een culise \u00een UE, nu \u00een timpul \u00eent\u00e2lnirilor care sunt \u00eenregistrate \u00een procese-verbale. Mai mult, acest dialog vizeaz\u0103 \u0219i \u021b\u0103ri din afara Uniunii Europene, precum Ucraina. \u00cen contextul actual al agresiunii Rusiei \u0219i al r\u0103zboiului din Ucraina, acest lucru este deosebit de important. Cred c\u0103 de aceea urm\u0103toarea \u00eent\u00e2lnire a Europei Carpa\u021bilor din februarie anul viitor va fi \u0219i mai important\u0103, mai ales pentru \u021b\u0103rile vecine cu Ucraina.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\"><strong>PAP: Este Polonia un rol principal \u00een Europa Carpa\u021bilor?<\/strong><\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MK: \u00cen istoria Poloniei, de la \u00eenceputul dinastiei Piast, o perioad\u0103 este foarte interesant\u0103 din motive economice \u0219i politice: vremurile Commonwealth-ului polono-lituanian, apoi pentru o perioad\u0103 - cele Trei Na\u021biuni. Acest parlamentarism s-a bazat, printre altele, pe pe picior de egalitate, liber cu liber. Consider c\u0103 \u0219i ast\u0103zi acest principiu poate aduce cele mai bune rezultate \u00een cooperarea \u021b\u0103rilor din Europa Central\u0103. Dac\u0103 o \u021bar\u0103 a sim\u021bit c\u0103 este tratat\u0103 \u00een mod secundar, ar fi mai degrab\u0103 s\u0103 nu fie dispus\u0103 s\u0103 coopereze. \u00cen Uniunea European\u0103, lupt\u0103m pentru ca partea noastr\u0103 de Europa, inclusiv Polonia, s\u0103 nu fie tratat\u0103 ca un supliment colonial secundar - vrem s\u0103 fim trata\u021bi ca egali \u0219i liberi cu cei liberi. La fel \u0219i \u00een Europa Carpa\u021bilor. De\u0219i slovacii, cehii, ungurii - aceste \u021b\u0103ri sunt mult mai mici dec\u00e2t Polonia, dar dac\u0103 i-am face s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 c\u0103 din acest motiv ar trebui s\u0103 fim mai importan\u021bi, cooperarea noastr\u0103 nu s-ar dezvolta. Nem\u021bii ar avea mai multe avantaje dec\u00e2t noi. Dar atunci c\u00e2nd cooper\u0103m \u00eempreun\u0103 \u00een Europa Central\u0103, de\u0219i suntem una dintre cele mai slabe regiuni din punct de vedere al concuren\u021bei, ne dezvolt\u0103m cel mai rapid, chiar \u0219i la scar\u0103 global\u0103!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"719\" src=\"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-1024x719.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-27219\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-1024x719.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-300x211.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-768x539.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-1536x1078.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Europa-Karpat-Krasiczyn-1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><em>Conferin\u021ba Europa Carpa\u021bilor, Krasiczyn, februarie 2022, foto: M. 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