{"id":27118,"date":"2022-12-13T16:24:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-13T15:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=27118"},"modified":"2022-12-13T16:24:43","modified_gmt":"2022-12-13T15:24:43","slug":"marek-kuchcinski-dla-pap-tylko-gra-druzynowa-daje-efekty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/ro\/wydarzenia\/marek-kuchcinski-dla-pap-tylko-gra-druzynowa-daje-efekty\/","title":{"rendered":"Marek Kuchci\u0144ski pentru PAP: Doar jocul de echip\u0103 aduce rezultate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>PAP: Ocupa\u021bi de aproape dou\u0103 luni func\u021bia de \u0219ef al Cancelariei Primului Ministru. Te-ai aclimat deja?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marek Kuchci\u0144ski: M\u0103 aclimatizez, dar tot continu\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: \u0218i ce este \u00een neregul\u0103 cu acest birou?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Nici m\u0103car nu e vorba de birou \u00een sine, de\u0219i prefer un design interior mai casual.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Ce zici de cooperarea cu prim-ministrul Mateusz Morawiecki, cum merge?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Foarte bine, prim-ministrul este \u00eentr-adev\u0103r un element \u00een politic\u0103, deci atotcuprinz\u0103tor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: La scurt timp dup\u0103 nominalizare, s-a spus c\u0103 urma\u021bi s\u0103 fi\u021bi ochiul \u0219i urechea pre\u0219edintelui \u00een Cancelaria Primului Ministru.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Acestea sunt zvonuri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: S\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103, c\u00e2nd a\u021bi venit aici, a\u021bi \u00eencetat s\u0103 mai vorbi\u021bi cu domnul Jaros\u0142aw Kaczy\u0144ski?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Vorbim foarte des, to\u021bi politicienii care sunt \u00een conducerea Dreptului \u0219i Justi\u021biei \u0219i \u00een conducerea guvernului au contacte foarte frecvente \u00eentre ei, chiar \u0219i de c\u00e2teva ori pe s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103. Lucrul aici presupune, de fapt, mult angajament \u0219i sprijin pentru toate activit\u0103\u021bile care vizeaz\u0103 coordonarea cooper\u0103rii dintre prim-ministru \u0219i ministerele individuale, tocmai \u00een cadrul cabinetului premierului. Aceasta este sarcina principal\u0103 a Cancelariei Primului Ministru - s\u0103-l ajute pe prim-ministru \u00een slujirea \u0219i conducerea guvernului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Folosi\u021bi idei sau sfaturi de la predecesorul dumneavoastr\u0103, domnul Micha\u0142 Dworczyk?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Absolut. Ministrul Dworczyk a fost \u0219i elementul care a dus la func\u021bionarea acestui birou ca atare atotcuprinz\u0103tor \u2013 a fost nevoit s\u0103 fac\u0103 acest lucru de situa\u021bia care s-a petrecut \u00een ultimii ani, at\u00e2t \u00een Polonia, c\u00e2t \u0219i \u00een lume, \u00een principal \u00een Europa. M\u0103 refer la pandemie \u0219i la multiplele crize asociate acesteia \u0219i, bine\u00een\u021beles, la intensificarea r\u0103zboiului din Ucraina, care a adus ulterioare crize suprapuse: infla\u021bioniste, economice etc. Mi se pare c\u0103 \u00een istoria modern\u0103 a Poloniei avem nu a avut o situa\u021bie la fel de grav\u0103 \u2013 nici \u00een 2008 \u0219i nici mai devreme, \u00een timpul acelor mari reforme introduse \u00een anii 1990. Prin urmare, Cancelaria Primului Ministru a trebuit s\u0103 anticipeze evenimentele, s\u0103 ac\u021bioneze uneori orar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Po\u021bi risca s\u0103 spui c\u0103 a devenit un astfel de super guvern \u00een cadrul guvernului?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: L-a\u0219 numi altfel - un organism suplimentar, care sus\u021bine \u201efierbinte\u201d, din moment \u00een clip, activit\u0103\u021bile diferitelor ministere - ca \u00een cazul crizelor de s\u0103n\u0103tate sau a activit\u0103\u021bilor legate de r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina. Ministrul Dworczyk a reu\u0219it s\u0103 o fac\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>PAP: Ei bine, ce-i cu el, ce face? Au existat zvonuri c\u0103 p\u0103r\u0103se\u0219te guvernul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Nu, \u00eenc\u0103 lucreaz\u0103 \u00een biroul primului-ministru, ocup\u00e2ndu-se de chestiuni legate de sprijinirea activit\u0103\u021bilor umanitare \u00een str\u0103in\u0103tate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: \u00ce\u021bi place s\u0103 lucrezi cu ministrul Dworczyk? Regre\u021bi c\u0103 i-ai luat locul?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Foarte bine. \u0218i nu exist\u0103 vulpi. Pute\u021bi vedea c\u0103 acest politician a trecut printr-o \u0219coal\u0103 grea de scouting \u0219i armata \u00een tinere\u021be - \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 perseveren\u021ba \u0219i rezisten\u021ba \u00een vremuri dificile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: V\u0103 rog s\u0103-mi spune\u021bi - vor avea loc schimb\u0103ri de personal \u00een guvern \u00een s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2nile urm\u0103toare?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Aceasta este, practic, o \u00eentrebare pentru prim-ministru, dar nu cred c\u0103 exist\u0103 planuri pentru asta \u00een acest moment. Perioada preelectoral\u0103 - pentru c\u0103 mai avem mai pu\u021bin de un an p\u00e2n\u0103 la alegeri - nu este un moment potrivit pentru asta \u0219i fiecare guvern evit\u0103 atunci orice schimb\u0103ri serioase de personal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Ei bine, dac\u0103 nu lua\u021bi puterile unui politician important, a\u0219a cum sa \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu domnul Jacek Dekora, ministru adjunct al Climei \u0219i Mediului.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Acestea sunt activit\u0103\u021bi tehnice care de obicei ar trebui s\u0103 \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021beasc\u0103 \u2013 vorbesc \u00een general, nu m\u0103 refer la domnul Dekora \u2013 func\u021bionarea ministerului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Este un concept foarte interesant: nu vom l\u0103sa pe nimeni s\u0103 fac\u0103 nimic, a\u0219a c\u0103 automat vom \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bi func\u021bionarea ministerului.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: \u00cen multe guverne sunt mini\u0219tri f\u0103r\u0103 portofoliu, au alte sarcini.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Reprezint\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Nu numai, ci \u00eendeplinesc \u0219i sarcini atribuite de prim-ministru sau de ministrul climei \u0219i mediului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Ministrul Mariusz B\u0142aszczak a anun\u021bat mar\u021bi c\u0103 \u00eencepem discu\u021biile cu Germania despre desf\u0103\u0219urarea Patrio\u021bilor lor \u00een Polonia, care - din p\u0103cate - nu va fi predat\u0103 Ucrainei. Cum anticipa\u021bi: c\u00e2nd acest echipament ar putea ajunge la noi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Trebuie s\u0103-i cere\u021bi detalii de la ministrul Ap\u0103r\u0103rii, pentru c\u0103 discu\u021biile cu partea german\u0103 sunt conduse de el, f\u0103r\u0103 participarea publicului. Totu\u0219i, dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea, este o chestiune de timp destul de scurt. Ministrul Ap\u0103r\u0103rii a propus s\u0103 protejeze grani\u021ba pe partea ucrainean\u0103, adic\u0103 at\u00e2t Ucraina, c\u00e2t \u0219i Polonia, \u0219i a fost o propunere bun\u0103. Presupun\u00e2nd, desigur, c\u0103 cazul Patrio\u021bilor nu a fost doar un joc de PR din partea Germaniei. Vecinii no\u0219tri din vest nu au decis s\u0103 predea Patrio\u021bii Ucrainei, a\u0219a c\u0103 se finalizeaz\u0103 discu\u021biile pentru ca acest sistem de rachete s\u0103 fie \u00een Polonia \u0219i, \u00een plus, condus de comanda \u0219i echipaje poloneze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Propunerea ini\u021bial\u0103 a germanilor ca armata lor s\u0103 opereze acest echipament ar reprezenta vreo amenin\u021bare pentru Polonia?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Mul\u021bi au b\u0103nuit c\u0103 a fost o glum\u0103 din partea germanilor. Este greu de imaginat o \u021bar\u0103 care, dup\u0103 ce a tr\u0103it aceste drame din secolul al XX-lea din partea Germaniei, ar fi de acord necrit \u0219i necondi\u021bionat cu o astfel de situa\u021bie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: La urm\u0103toarea sesiune a Sejm-ului va fi votat un vot de ne\u00eencredere fa\u021b\u0103 de Zbigniew Ziobro. \u00cel vei proteja?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Trebuie s\u0103-l ap\u0103r\u0103m pe ministrul Ziobro \u0219i cred c\u0103 vom reu\u0219i.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: \u00cen ciuda faptului c\u0103 situa\u021bia din Dreapta Unit\u0103 este \u0219i ea tulbure \u0219i plin\u0103 de desc\u0103rc\u0103ri.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u0219i, de fapt, din 1989, nu-mi amintesc niciun mandat parlamentar \u0219i guvern care s\u0103 nu fi trecut prin situa\u021bii dificile \u0219i tulburi. Inclusiv guvernele care au avut un avantaj enorm, precum guvernul SLD-PSL cu pre\u0219edintele Aleksander Kwasniewski sau guvernele AWS \u0219i Unia Wolno\u015bci, de asemenea, cu pre\u0219edintele Kwasniewski. Exist\u0103 mai multe astfel de exemple. De aceea nu v\u0103d nicio dram\u0103 anume aici. Exist\u0103 \u00eentotdeauna num\u0103r\u0103toarea voturilor, referirea la temeiul constitu\u021bional dur c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 ai mai mult de 230 de voturi pentru a avea o majoritate. \u0218i \u00een cazul unor schimb\u0103ri mai grave \u2013 chiar mai mult. De aceea nu facem modific\u0103ri dac\u0103 nu suntem siguri c\u0103 va exista o majoritate suficient\u0103 pentru a le trece. \u0218i repet: nu a\u0219 dramatiza situa\u021bia din Dreapta Unit\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: C\u00e2nd eram copil, o persoan\u0103 care se comporta agresiv fa\u021b\u0103 de un grup era numit\u0103 \u201efika\u201d. Rib fic?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: C\u00e2nd \u00eel ascult, am impresia c\u0103 vorbe\u0219te destul de serios \u0219i \u00een multe cazuri subliniaz\u0103 chestiuni importante. Avertismentele \u00eempotriva anumitor ac\u021biuni \u00een Uniunea European\u0103 sau o lupt\u0103 dur\u0103 pentru independen\u021b\u0103 \u0219i ordonarea justi\u021biei sunt lucruri importante \u0219i serioase. V\u0103 rug\u0103m s\u0103 re\u021bine\u021bi - un singur mediu, legat de sistemul judiciar, a supravie\u021buit comunismului f\u0103r\u0103 procesul de verificare \u0219i decomunizare. \u0218i avem rezultatele acestui lucru, a\u0219a c\u0103 este o provocare dificil\u0103 pentru ministrul Ziobro. Ideologic are dreptate \u00een multe cazuri, dar uneori trebuie s\u0103 \u021bii picioarele pe p\u0103m\u00e2nt, pentru c\u0103 nu toate ideile pot fi implementate \u2013 aici \u0219i acum, mai ales \u00een rela\u021biile cu Uniunea European\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Ce sa \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu Jacek Dekora care a ar\u0103tat un cartona\u0219 galben unui partener politic pentru a-l calma pu\u021bin?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Este o chestiune de cooperare a tuturor mini\u0219trilor \u0219i adjunc\u021bilor \u00eentr-un singur guvern. Suntem o echip\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 existe joc de echip\u0103. Fiecare dintre mini\u0219tri este responsabil constitu\u021bional de ministerul s\u0103u, dar cooperarea este obligatorie \u2013 \u0219i \u00een declara\u021biile publice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: O echip\u0103, nu juc\u0103tori?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Da, pentru c\u0103 numai munca \u00een echip\u0103 d\u0103 rezultate. \u00cen acest scop, sunt necesare, de asemenea, sarcini \u0219i raportare. Prin urmare, dac\u0103 un program este implementat, atunci este necesar s\u0103 se verifice cu ce efect. Protec\u021bia mediului este un domeniu foarte important, dar \u0219i unul dificil. De la gestionarea de\u0219eurilor, la protec\u021bia naturii, protec\u021bia apei \u0219i comercializarea cotelor de CO2. Acestea sunt chestiuni care necesit\u0103 un angajament mare, dar \u0219i cooperare \u0219i c\u0103utarea de acorduri - tot cu Uniunea European\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Apropo de Uniunea European\u0103 - c\u00e2nd, v\u0103 rog, ne putem a\u0219tepta la prima noastr\u0103 cerere de plat\u0103 KPO?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Mai este ceva timp \u00eenaintea noastr\u0103, dintre cele 27 de \u021b\u0103ri UE, nu toate au finalizat modalitatea de a primi bani de la KPO, unele sunt chiar mai departe de ea dec\u00e2t Polonia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Prim-ministrul Morawiecki urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2na viitoare la summitul UE. Va avea vreo discu\u021bie acolo despre ace\u0219ti bani pentru Polonia?<\/strong><br>MK: Dup\u0103 cum \u00eel cunosc pe prim-ministru, el folose\u0219te \u00eentotdeauna fiecare conversa\u021bie, chiar \u0219i bilateral\u0103, pentru a vorbi despre cooperarea cu UE atunci c\u00e2nd c\u0103l\u0103tore\u0219te \u00een str\u0103in\u0103tate. C\u00e2nd se poart\u0103 discu\u021bii cu prim-mini\u0219trii Lituaniei sau Italiei, rela\u021biile noastre cu Uniunea European\u0103 sunt \u00eentotdeauna unul dintre subiecte. Aceast\u0103 perspectiv\u0103 a UE este foarte complicat\u0103, mai ales c\u0103 nu ne baz\u0103m \u00eentotdeauna pe o \u00een\u021belegere comun\u0103 a tratatelor \u0219i a legisla\u021biei UE. Aceast\u0103 lege este adesea interpretat\u0103 diferit \u2013 foarte larg \u2013 \u00een Comisia European\u0103, ceea ce ne face dificil s\u0103 ac\u021bion\u0103m. Deci, cu at\u00e2t mai mult, \u00eentr-o echip\u0103 at\u00e2t de mare trebuie s\u0103 vorbi\u021bi tot timpul \u2013 este esen\u021bial.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Poate c\u0103 ar merita s\u0103 vorbim \u0219i cu UE despre bani care ar compensa cumva ajutorul Poloniei pentru Ucraina? Acum se vorbe\u0219te despre un alt val de iarn\u0103 de refugia\u021bi din aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103 \u00een Polonia. Suntem preg\u0103ti\u021bi pentru ei?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: A\u0219a cred; pe baza experien\u021bei anterioare. \u00cen 2020, c\u00e2nd a ap\u0103rut pandemia \u0219i \u00een februarie 2022, c\u00e2nd Rusia a lovit Ucraina pe scar\u0103 larg\u0103, societatea polonez\u0103 a trecut testul. Pe de alt\u0103 parte, problema banilor \u0219i a sprijinului pentru activit\u0103\u021bile Poloniei care ajut\u0103 Ucraina este una dintre problemele fundamentale \u0219i cred c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 fie legat\u0103 \u0219i de Planul Na\u021bional de Reconstruc\u021bie \u0219i s\u0103 cear\u0103 sprijin din partea Uniunii Europene, care ar trebui s\u0103 transfere banii. datorat\u0103 c\u00e2t mai cur\u00e2nd posibil \u00een conformitate cu KPO. Polonia ofer\u0103 Ucrainei \u0219i cet\u0103\u021benilor s\u0103i un mare ajutor. Diferen\u021ba cu majoritatea celorlalte \u021b\u0103ri din UE este uria\u0219\u0103. Din p\u0103cate, acest sprijin UE pentru refugia\u021bi nu este disponibil. \u00cen acela\u0219i timp, ne este greu s\u0103 ob\u021binem fonduri de la KPO, atac\u00e2ndu-ne adesea \u021bara prin gura oficialilor UE. B\u0103nuiesc c\u0103 societatea german\u0103, francez\u0103 sau alte societ\u0103\u021bi nu sunt con\u0219tiente de nedreptatea care ne afecteaz\u0103 din partea unora dintre elitele oficiale ale UE.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Pe 11 decembrie urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 aib\u0103 loc Conven\u021bia Lege \u0219i Justi\u021bie privind agricultur\u0103. Ave\u021bi sugestii pentru fermieri pe care le ve\u021bi prezenta acum, \u00een perioada preelectoral\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Propunerile vor fi, sunt \u00een curs de preg\u0103tire, o serie de oferte diferite necesare, care vor r\u0103spunde nevoilor actuale din zonele rurale. Aceasta nu este o chestiune numai pentru fermieri, adic\u0103 pentru produc\u0103torii agricoli, ci \u0219i pentru \u00eentregi comunit\u0103\u021bi rurale. Ele vor viza, de asemenea, chestiuni de perspectiv\u0103, adic\u0103 viziunea dezvolt\u0103rii agriculturii poloneze \u0219i a peisajului polonez, \u00een timp ce se vor referi la principiul necesit\u0103\u021bii ap\u0103r\u0103rii fermelor familiale, formulat cu c\u00e2\u021biva ani \u00een urm\u0103 de guvernul nostru \u0219i implementat de Janusz Wojciechowski, comisarul european pentru Agricultura si Dezvoltare Rurala. Nu doar polonezi, ci \u00een toat\u0103 Europa, \u00een special \u00een Europa Central\u0103, pentru c\u0103 avem cei mai mul\u021bi dintre ei aici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Permite\u021bi-mi s\u0103 \u00eentreb \u00eentr-un mod diferit: de ce au nevoie fermierii \u0219i satele pentru a o \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ei au nevoie de sprijin juridic \u0219i organizatoric, consolid\u00e2ndu-\u0219i pozi\u021bia pe pia\u021b\u0103, de exemplu fa\u021b\u0103 de intermediari \u0219i contractori. De asemenea, ne str\u0103duim s\u0103 dezvolt\u0103m \u00een\u021belegerea faptului c\u0103 politica agricol\u0103 \u00een Polonia ar trebui regionalizat\u0103. V\u0103 rug\u0103m s\u0103 arunca\u021bi o privire: fermele din sud-estul Poloniei au suprafe\u021be mici - c\u00e2teva sau o duzin\u0103 de hectare, \u00een timp ce \u00een nord-vestul Poloniei avem ferme mari, aproape fermieri; trebuie s\u0103 le abord\u0103m altfel. \u00centreaga zon\u0103 legat\u0103 de serviciul agriculturii, adic\u0103 fabricile de procesare, precum \u0219i procesele de comercializare a produselor agricole, trebuie consolidat\u0103. La aceasta se adaug\u0103 ap\u0103rarea fermierilor polonezi \u0219i subven\u021biile - aceasta va continua s\u0103 fie pus\u0103 \u00een aplicare. Am reu\u0219it deja s\u0103 ob\u021binem subven\u021bii peste media UE pentru 97% ferme poloneze. De asemenea, este important s\u0103 oferim agriculturii poloneze oportunit\u0103\u021bi de export, mai ales c\u0103 m\u0103rfurile poloneze - at\u00e2t produse agricole, c\u00e2t \u0219i procesare - sunt foarte competitive pe pie\u021bele mondiale. \u00cen plus, sunt ecologice din fire, au de cel pu\u021bin trei ori mai pu\u021bine fungicide \u0219i pesticide dec\u00e2t cele produse \u00een \u021b\u0103rile din vestul UE. Acestea sunt avantajele pe care statul ar trebui s\u0103 le sus\u021bin\u0103 \u0219i chiar le sus\u021bine, aceasta este o provocare pentru noi \u0219i ac\u021biunile noastre vor merge \u00een aceast\u0103 direc\u021bie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PAP: Recent, pre\u0219edintele Jaros\u0142aw Kaczy\u0144ski a declarat c\u0103 va fi de acord cu o dezbatere cu Donald Tusk, dac\u0103 aceasta va avea loc \u00een condi\u021bii echitabile. Este o idee bun\u0103? Crezi c\u0103 va exista o astfel de dezbatere?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MK: Nu \u0219tiu, l-a\u0219 sf\u0103tui pe pre\u0219edintele Kaczy\u0144ski s\u0103 nu vorbeasc\u0103 cu un om care nu este de \u00eencredere \u0219i agresiv. Acest lucru a fost vizibil \u00eenc\u0103 de la \u00eenceput, c\u00e2nd a fost creat\u0103 Platforma. Primul exemplu: cum i-a tratat pe oamenii cu care a fondat acest partid? Maciej Plazynski? El a fost marginalizat la scurt timp dup\u0103 crearea PO. Zyta Gilowska a fost eliminat\u0103. Jan Rokita - a fost de asemenea eliminat. Nu faci asta cu colegii de munc\u0103. 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