{"id":25497,"date":"2022-06-15T15:02:52","date_gmt":"2022-06-15T13:02:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=25497"},"modified":"2022-06-15T15:02:54","modified_gmt":"2022-06-15T13:02:54","slug":"co-pozostalo-z-przyjazni-wegiersko-polskiej","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/ro\/wydarzenia\/co-pozostalo-z-przyjazni-wegiersko-polskiej\/","title":{"rendered":"Ce a mai r\u0103mas din prietenia ungaro-polonez\u0103?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Text: Mandiner, Zolt\u00e1n Vecz\u00e1n<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ultimele 100 de zile nu vor trece f\u0103r\u0103 urm\u0103 \u00een istoria rela\u021biilor ungaro-poloneze. Politicieni polonezi de marc\u0103 au discutat la Budapesta cu Balazs Orb\u00e1n \u0219i Zsolt N\u00e9meth: cuv\u00e2ntul cheie a fost \u00een\u021belegere, dar au existat \u0219i multe contraste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vicepre\u0219edintele Sejm-ului Ryszard Terlecki, pre\u0219edintele Comisiei pentru afaceri externe Marek Kuchci\u0144ski \u0219i europarlamentarul Bogus\u0142aw Sonik au avut discu\u021bii cu Balazs Orb\u00e1n, directorul Biroului primului ministru al Ungariei, \u0219i Zsolt N\u00e9meth, pre\u0219edintele Comisiei pentru afaceri externe, la o cafenea care poart\u0103 numele lui Roger Scruton de pe strada Veres P\u00e1ln\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schimbul de opinii, moderat de Maciej Szymanowski, director al Institutului Wac\u0142aw Felczak pentru cooperare polono-ungar\u0103 din Var\u0219ovia, a abundat, de asemenea, \u00een cuvinte frumoase \u0219i critici subtile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Participan\u021bii i-au adus, de asemenea, un omagiu lui Roger Scruton<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dup\u0103 cum spunea Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n, v\u0103duva lui Scruton i-a spus personal c\u0103 inima filosofului b\u0103tea \u00een Europa Central\u0103 \u0219i chiar: a \u00een\u021beles specificul sufletului, istoriei, culturii \u0219i spiritului popular de aici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Supravie\u021buirea depinde de na\u021bionalism \u00een sensul bun al cuv\u00e2ntului, iar cei care consider\u0103 c\u0103 interesul na\u021bional este prioritar au succes\", a spus Orb\u00e1n: \"Noi avem succes. Nu vom fi de acord cu totul, dar dac\u0103 exist\u0103 respect \u0219i \u00een\u021belegere reciproc\u0103, nimic nu este pierdut, iar prietenia polono-ungar\u0103 este de mare importan\u021b\u0103.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zsolt N\u00e9meth a l\u0103udat activitatea social\u0103 clandestin\u0103 a lui Scruton \u00een Europa Central\u0103 \u00eenainte de schimbarea de regim, men\u021bion\u00e2nd c\u0103 polonezii au compactat multe lucruri p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1980, ceea ce pentru noi \u00eenseamn\u0103, de exemplu, 1956.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ultimele 100 de zile nu vor trece f\u0103r\u0103 urm\u0103 \u00een istoria rela\u021biilor ungaro-poloneze<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aceast\u0103 perioad\u0103 dificil\u0103 este un test pentru prietenia ungaro-polonez\u0103, dar \"poate c\u0103 am ajuns deja la fundul sacului \u0219i \u00eencepem s\u0103 ie\u0219im de acolo\". El a amintit de prima c\u0103l\u0103torie a pre\u0219edintelui Katalin Nov\u00e1k la Var\u0219ovia \u0219i \u0219i-a exprimat recuno\u0219tin\u021ba fa\u021b\u0103 de mare\u0219alii Sejm pentru aceast\u0103 vizit\u0103, care \"ne ajut\u0103 s\u0103 ne \u00een\u021belegem mai bine\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pre\u0219edintele Comisiei pentru afaceri externe a Ungariei a declarat c\u0103 poate p\u0103rea surprinz\u0103tor, dar scopurile ungure\u0219ti \u0219i poloneze sunt acelea\u0219i \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te Ucraina: s\u0103 deschid\u0103 u\u0219ile UE pentru aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103-i acorde statutul de candidat, deoarece s\u00e2ngele, zecile de mii de victime, \u00eei dau Ucrainei dreptul de a face acest lucru. Europa conservatoare, apar\u021bine na\u021biunilor suverane \u0219i nu accept\u0103 teoriile interesante, doctrina Brejnev sau reconstruc\u021bia Uniunii Sovietice, respinge \"acordul\" de la Yalta \u0219i sus\u021bine procesul de la Helsinki, iar cu polonezii nu exist\u0103 alt\u0103 alternativ\u0103 dec\u00e2t o alian\u021b\u0103 str\u00e2ns\u0103 \u0219i prietenoas\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

S\u0103 nu ne facem mai mult r\u0103u nou\u0103 \u00een\u0219ine dec\u00e2t ru\u0219ilor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchcinski, pre\u0219edintele Comisiei parlamentare pentru afaceri externe, l-a l\u0103udat pe Scruton pentru oportunitatea de a dezbate \u0219i de a face schimb de opinii \u0219i a declarat c\u0103 obiectivul comun este de a consolida cooperarea milenar\u0103 polono-ungar\u0103 \u0219i, astfel, de a consolida Europa Central\u0103. \"To\u021bi politicienii de bun sim\u021b se pot identifica cu acest lucru\", a spus el.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Directorul Maciej Szymanowski a vorbit despre r\u0103zboiul informa\u021bional \u0219i despre manipularea pentru a-i \u00eentoarce pe polonezi \u0219i maghiari \u00eempotriva lor, iar pre\u0219edintele Terlecki a declarat c\u0103 au fost surprin\u0219i at\u00e2t de atacul complet al ru\u0219ilor, c\u00e2t \u0219i de rezisten\u021ba reu\u0219it\u0103 a ucrainenilor. El a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103 exist\u0103 o team\u0103 puternic\u0103 de un conflict global \u0219i c\u0103 ar trebui trimise arme \u0219i tancuri. \"Cereri \u0219i exigen\u021be dramatice\"<\/em> au fost emise de la Kiev, pe baza faptului c\u0103 ru\u0219ii nu se vor opri, vor merge mai departe \u00een Polonia, a\u0219a c\u0103, \u00een cele din urm\u0103, au decis definitiv s\u0103 ajute Ucraina,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aceasta este o ocazie excelent\u0103 pentru a sl\u0103bi Rusia c\u00e2t mai mult posibil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ryszard Terlecki a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103 ru\u0219ii fac acum ceea ce fac, \u00eencuraja\u021bi de faptul c\u0103 Europa nu a reu\u0219it s\u0103 ia m\u0103suri decisive \u00een Crimeea \u0219i Donbass.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu r\u0103zboiul este cel care amenin\u021b\u0103 pacea, ci Rusia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

a declarat vicepre\u0219edintele Sejm-ului. El a men\u021bionat c\u0103 PiS se confrunt\u0103 cu un atac propagandistic serios din partea opozi\u021biei, potrivit c\u0103ruia ar fi alia\u021bii lui Putin, \"pentru c\u0103 noi nu am rupt leg\u0103turile cu prietenii no\u0219tri maghiari. M\u00e2ine, la Var\u0219ovia, ziarele vor spune c\u0103, de fapt, ne-am consultat cu Putin, dar numai prin medierea ungar\u0103. Pentru claritatea audien\u021bei, el a ad\u0103ugat: \"Din acest punct de vedere, opozi\u021bia dumneavoastr\u0103 este mult mai cult\u0103 dec\u00e2t a noastr\u0103\". El a men\u021bionat c\u0103 \u00een Polonia \"din p\u0103cate, acest lucru este normal\" \u0219i c\u0103 prietenia ungaro-polonez\u0103 va supravie\u021bui acestui test, dar va fi cu siguran\u021b\u0103 folosit\u0103 \u00eempotriva PiS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Afaceri \u00een Ungaria<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Boguslaw Sonik, europarlamentar din partea Platformei Civice din opozi\u021bie, a declarat \u00een discursul s\u0103u pro-UE c\u0103 \u021b\u0103rile noastre au \u00eemplinit visul a genera\u021bii \u00eentregi, sim\u021bind presiunea Bruxelles-ului sau a NATO, deoarece putem spune acest lucru pentru c\u0103 suntem parte a unei comunit\u0103\u021bi. \u00cen acela\u0219i timp, \u00een opinia sa, deteriorarea rela\u021biilor nu se datoreaz\u0103 dezinform\u0103rii opozi\u021biei, ci faptului c\u0103 \"ungurii nu \u0219i-au explicat clar propria pozi\u021bie\" \u0219i nu este suficient ca \"interesul maghiar s\u0103 fie pe primul loc\" \u00een c\u00e2\u0219tigarea opiniei publice poloneze sau europene, iar \u00een declara\u021biile de la Budapesta au resim\u021bit acest lucru ca o lips\u0103 de empatie fa\u021b\u0103 de ucraineni, precum \u0219i comentarii \"biciuitoare\" la adresa pre\u0219edintelui ucrainean.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Szymanowski a recomandat publicului cartea lui Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n, Once Upon a Time of Hungarian Strategic Thinking (A fost odat\u0103 o g\u00e2ndire strategic\u0103 maghiar\u0103), pentru a \u00een\u021belege interesul maghiar, iar autorul \u00eensu\u0219i a explicat c\u0103 con\u0219tientizarea interesului na\u021bional este o munc\u0103 intelectual\u0103 continu\u0103, c\u0103 este mai u\u0219or s\u0103 ob\u021bii suveranitatea \u00eempotriva unui opresor direct vizibil dec\u00e2t este pentru Ungaria \u0219i Polonia \u00eempotriva nazi\u0219tilor \u0219i sovieticilor - ca atunci c\u00e2nd scopul este men\u021binerea suveranit\u0103\u021bii (nu este at\u00e2t de simplu). El a calificat drept o tragedie faptul c\u0103 r\u0103zboiul a pus cap\u0103t coexisten\u021bei pa\u0219nice eurasiatice:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exist\u0103 un agresor numit Rusia \u0219i o victim\u0103 numit\u0103 Ucraina<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar \"din fericire, agresorul nu a reu\u0219it\". Pe de alt\u0103 parte, cooperarea central-european\u0103 este esen\u021bial\u0103, altfel va fi distrus\u0103 de furtuni geopolitice majore. Prin urmare, prietenia ungaro-polonez\u0103 are o baz\u0103 strategic\u0103 de interes, pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 cea emo\u021bional\u0103. G\u00e2ndirea strategic\u0103 maghiar\u0103 dicteaz\u0103 c\u0103 r\u0103zboiul trebuie condamnat, c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 se ofere ajutor refugia\u021bilor din Ucraina \u0219i c\u0103 este nevoie de unitate european\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zsolt N\u00e9meth a reamintit \u00een replic\u0103 c\u0103 Ungaria a votat pentru toate sanc\u021biunile \u0219i aceasta este o arm\u0103 serioas\u0103, dar trebuie tras\u0103 o linie, iar aici este embargoul energetic: embargoul petrolier \u0219i problema gazului vor veni, \u00een timp ce \"Ru\u0219ii pot, desigur, s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103, dar altcuiva.<\/em> Pre\u0219edintele Comisiei maghiare a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103 o astfel de blocad\u0103 interna\u021bional\u0103 serioas\u0103 nu poate dec\u00e2t s\u0103 afecteze Iranul. \u00cen plus, acesta a spus c\u0103 este important s\u0103 se cunoasc\u0103 direct, deoarece \u00een presa maghiar\u0103 \u0219i polonez\u0103 apar pozi\u021bii antipoloneze \u0219i antiungare ca parte a unui \"r\u0103zboi de propagand\u0103\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen orice caz, nu va fi u\u0219or pentru guvernul polonez acum, dar \u00een\u021belegerea reciproc\u0103 a pozi\u021biilor este crucial\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 \u00eei este recunosc\u0103tor lui Marek Kuchci\u0144ski pentru scrisorile publicat<\/a> pe Mandiner. Zsolt N\u00e9meth a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103 lumea occidental\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 dea dovad\u0103 de for\u021b\u0103 \u0219i unitate, pentru c\u0103 nu mai poate reprezenta o amenin\u021bare.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchci\u0144ski a spus c\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lniri precum cea de ast\u0103zi sunt cruciale, unde se pot evita frazele scoase din context \u0219i realitatea ipocrit\u0103. El a subliniat necesitatea unei cooper\u0103ri puternice \u00eentre Polonia \u0219i Ungaria, care s\u0103 construiasc\u0103 \u0219i Europa Central\u0103, \"dar numai pe principiul: liberi sunt egali cu liberi, egali cu egali\", referindu-se la republica nobil\u0103 polonez\u0103 \u0219i la perioada adun\u0103rilor na\u021bionale maghiare.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"C\u00e2nd statele noastre existau \u00een acest mod, erau at\u00e2t de puternice \u00eenc\u00e2t nu ne puteau ataca cu impunitate nici dinspre est, nici dinspre vest.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pre\u0219edintele Comisiei poloneze pentru afaceri externe a subliniat c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 vedem \u0219i care este politica ungar\u0103 \u0219i polonez\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 de UE: cooperarea \u00eentre state na\u021bionale suverane.de\u0219i \"cei care conduc ast\u0103zi UE doresc ca drumurile noastre s\u0103 se despart\u0103\", pentru a<\/em> ar putea realiza mai u\u0219or viziunea unui superstat federal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Terlecki a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103 ei \u00een\u0219i\u0219i nu cred c\u0103 UE \u00ee\u0219i va schimba pozi\u021bia negativ\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 de Ucraina, care s-ar putea schimba \u0219i \u00een cazul Moldovei \u0219i Georgiei. Cel mai important lucru este c\u0103 Europa Central\u0103 \u0219i de Est sunt de acord, \u00een timp ce UE dore\u0219te \"s\u0103 se sinucid\u0103\"<\/em> prin ecologizarea energiei sau prin fantezia cu Ungaria \u0219i excluderea Poloniei.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Szymanowski a \u00eencheiat evenimentul spun\u00e2nd: Europenii din Europa Central\u0103 vor \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba s\u0103 lucreze \u00eempreun\u0103 sau vor fi din nou pasageri \u00eentr-un tren care nu va avea niciun control asupra sta\u021biilor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Pre\u0219edintele Comisiei pentru afaceri externe Marek Kuchci\u0144ski<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Fotografie de portret: M\u00e1rton Ficsor, D\u00e1vid M\u00e1trai, \u00c1rp\u00e1d F\u00f6ldh\u00e1zi<\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Text: Mandiner, Zolt\u00e1n Vecz\u00e1n Ultimele 100 de zile nu vor trece f\u0103r\u0103 urm\u0103 \u00een istoria rela\u021biilor dintre Ungaria \u0219i Polonia. Politicieni polonezi de marc\u0103 au discutat la Budapesta cu Balazs Orb\u00e1n \u0219i Zsolt N\u00e9meth: cuv\u00e2ntul cheie a fost \u00een\u021belegere, dar \u0219i contraste au fost numeroase. 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