{"id":25536,"date":"2022-06-13T23:36:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-13T21:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/?p=25536"},"modified":"2022-06-17T10:55:01","modified_gmt":"2022-06-17T08:55:01","slug":"budapeszt-inauguracja-klubow-europy-karpat-w-scruton-cafe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marekkuchcinski.pl\/cs\/wydarzenia\/budapeszt-inauguracja-klubow-europy-karpat-w-scruton-cafe\/","title":{"rendered":"Budape\u0161\u0165: Slavnostn\u00ed otev\u0159en\u00ed klub\u016f Carpathian Europe v kav\u00e1rn\u011b Scruton Caf\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dne 13. \u010dervna se v Budape\u0161ti v r\u00e1mci slavnostn\u00edho zah\u00e1jen\u00ed \u010dinnosti Karpatsk\u00fdch evropsk\u00fdch klub\u016f uskute\u010dnila panelov\u00e1 diskuse o polsko-ma\u010farsk\u00fdch vztaz\u00edch a v\u00e1lce na Ukrajin\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Z\u00fa\u010dastnil se j\u00ed mimo jin\u00e9 Ryszard Terlecki - p\u0159edseda Sejmu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchci\u0144ski, p\u0159edseda V\u00fdboru pro zahrani\u010dn\u00ed v\u011bci
Bogus\u0142aw Sonik, poslanec polsk\u00e9ho parlamentu<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zsolt N\u00e9meth, p\u0159edseda zahrani\u010dn\u00edho v\u00fdboru ma\u010farsk\u00e9ho N\u00e1rodn\u00edho shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bal\u00e1zs Orb\u00e1n, n\u00e1m\u011bstek ministra v \u00fa\u0159adu p\u0159edsedy vl\u00e1dy Ma\u010farska<\/p>\n\n\n\n

a host\u00e9 - \u010dlenov\u00e9 opozice komunistick\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Diskusi moderoval \u0159editel Institutu Wac\u0142awa Felczaka, profesor Maciej Szymanowski.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u00edsto setk\u00e1n\u00ed: kav\u00e1rna Scruton.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prvn\u00edm \u0159e\u010dn\u00edkem byl Balazs Orban. Byl po\u017e\u00e1d\u00e1n, aby p\u0159edstavil postavu Rogera Scrutona, konzervativn\u00edho filozofa a spisovatele, a vysv\u011btlil, co je to vlastn\u011b kav\u00e1rna - zn\u00e1m\u00e9 m\u00edsto setk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed a diskus\u00ed. Druh\u00fdm \u0159e\u010dn\u00edkem byl Zsolt N\u00e9meth, kter\u00fd se v \u00favodu zm\u00ednil o knize profesora Ryszarda Terleck\u00e9ho Solidarno\u015b\u0107 1980-1989. The Polish Road to Freedom, kter\u00e1 ned\u00e1vno vy\u0161la v Ma\u010farsku. Pot\u00e9 informoval o pl\u00e1nech na z\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed Scrutonov\u00fdch kav\u00e1ren v Polsku, nap\u0159. ve Var\u0161av\u011b nebo Przemy\u015blu. V dal\u0161\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti s odkazem na t\u00e9ma panelu uvedl, \u017ee polsko-ma\u010farsk\u00e9 p\u0159\u00e1telstv\u00ed bylo v posledn\u00ed dob\u011b vystaveno zkou\u0161ce. Pr\u016flomem byla n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bva nov\u011b zvolen\u00e9ho ma\u010farsk\u00e9ho prezidenta v Polsku a p\u0159\u00edjezd polsk\u00e9 delegace je reakc\u00ed na ni.
Vyj\u00e1d\u0159il p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00ed, \u017ee z hlediska c\u00edl\u016f je pozice Ma\u010farska a Polska stejn\u00e1, ale li\u0161\u00ed se v prost\u0159edc\u00edch a zp\u016fsobu jejich dosa\u017een\u00ed. Prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee Ma\u010farsko pln\u011b podporuje vstup Ukrajiny do Evropsk\u00e9 unie, nast\u00ednil svou vizi konzervativn\u00ed Evropy - Evropy n\u00e1rod\u016f - a prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee je nep\u0159ijateln\u00e9 obnovovat Sov\u011btsk\u00fd svaz. To jsou spole\u010dn\u00e9 postoje obou zem\u00ed. Poznamenal v\u0161ak, \u017ee Evropa \u010del\u00ed hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 recesi a sankce n\u00e1s budou st\u00e1t hodn\u011b. Tento p\u0159\u00edstup se v jednotliv\u00fdch zem\u00edch li\u0161\u00ed a pr\u00e1v\u011b o tom je t\u0159eba diskutovat. Pot\u00e9 se slova ujal moder\u00e1tor panelu, profesor Szymanowski. Hovo\u0159il o my\u0161lence konference Evropa Karpat a uvedl konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edklad: na jedn\u00e9 z konferenc\u00ed byl formulov\u00e1n postul\u00e1t vybudovat silnici Via Carpatia a dnes se ji\u017e m\u016f\u017eeme t\u011b\u0161it z prvn\u00edch v\u00fdsledk\u016f - \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b ji\u017e postaven\u00e9 a rozestav\u011bn\u00e9 rychlostn\u00ed silnice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


D\u00e1le vystoupil Marek Kuchci\u0144ski, kter\u00fd vysv\u011btlil my\u0161lenku Karpatsk\u00fdch evropsk\u00fdch klub\u016f. Jde o diskusi o na\u0161ich hodnot\u00e1ch, my\u0161lenk\u00e1ch, konzervatismu nebo vizi Rogera Scrutona. Dne\u0161n\u00ed v\u00fdzvy vy\u017eaduj\u00ed takovou spole\u010dnou diskusi, a pr\u00e1v\u011b proto byly zalo\u017eeny Karpatsk\u00e9 evropsk\u00e9 kluby. Ozn\u00e1mil tak\u00e9 institucionalizaci Karpatsk\u00e9 Evropy. Pouk\u00e1zal na skute\u010dnost, \u017ee vstupem do EU jsme odm\u00edtli bari\u00e9ry a hranice, nap\u0159. m\u016f\u017eeme voln\u011b cestovat, ale n\u011bkter\u00e9 bari\u00e9ry z\u016fst\u00e1vaj\u00ed. V\u00e1lka na Ukrajin\u011b je jednou z takov\u00fdch p\u0159ek\u00e1\u017eek, tedy novou v\u00fdzvou. Zd\u016fraznil, \u017ee pos\u00edlen\u00ed polsko-ma\u010farsk\u00fdch vztah\u016f je na\u0161\u00ed budoucnost\u00ed, ale vy\u017eaduje diskusi, a vyj\u00e1d\u0159il uspokojen\u00ed, \u017ee se tak d\u011bje pr\u00e1v\u011b nyn\u00ed a na tak neobvykl\u00e9m m\u00edst\u011b.
Dal\u0161\u00edm \u0159e\u010dn\u00edkem byl m\u00edstop\u0159edseda Sejmu Ryszard Terlecki, kter\u00fd na \u00favod \u0159ekl, \u017ee n\u00e1s v\u00e1lka zasko\u010dila, a to jak jej\u00ed vypuknut\u00ed, tak hrdinn\u00fd odpor Ukrajinc\u016f.
a bezmoc zbytku sv\u011bta. V prvn\u00edch dnech jsme se ob\u00e1vali glob\u00e1ln\u00edho konfliktu, ale strach jsme p\u0159ekonali a za\u010dali Ukrajin\u011b re\u00e1ln\u011b pom\u00e1hat. Pro Polsko je z\u0159ejm\u00e9, \u017ee mus\u00edme pomoci sv\u00e9mu sousedovi, kter\u00fd by m\u011bl br\u00e1nit svou suverenitu a z\u00e1rove\u0148 oslabit Rusko. Terlecki v\u0161ak vyj\u00e1d\u0159il znepokojen\u00ed nad t\u00edm, \u017ee postoje jednotliv\u00fdch zem\u00ed jsou nejednotn\u00e9. Polsko bylo mimo jin\u00e9 p\u0159ekvapeno, \u017ee Ma\u010farsko vid\u00ed situaci jinak, ale jsme schopni to pochopit v ekonomick\u00e9m a politick\u00e9m kontextu. Vyj\u00e1d\u0159il tak\u00e9 obavu, \u017ee n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bva polsk\u00fdch poslanc\u016f by mohla slou\u017eit jako propaganda pro opozici, kter\u00e1 by mohla obvinit na\u0161i vl\u00e1du, \u017ee je t\u00edmto jedn\u00e1n\u00edm proputinovsk\u00e1. D\u00e1v\u00e1 to do souvislosti s t\u00edm, \u017ee se v Polsku bl\u00ed\u017e\u00ed volby a \u017ee by to mohl b\u00fdt argument v kampani. V Ma\u010farsku je situace zcela jin\u00e1, proto\u017ee tam ji\u017e volby prob\u011bhly. Pot\u00e9 se slova ujal Bogus\u0142aw Sonik, kter\u00fd uvedl, \u017ee probl\u00e9my, kter\u00fdm \u010del\u00edme, se t\u00fdkaj\u00ed svobodn\u00fdch zem\u00ed. Nov\u00fd probl\u00e9m je jin\u00fd - Ukrajina bojuje za svou i na\u0161i svobodu. Podpora Ukrajiny m\u00e1 obrovskou cenu, ale svoboda a nez\u00e1vislost jsou k nezaplacen\u00ed. Ma\u010farsko se proto nesm\u00ed \u0159\u00eddit jen sv\u00fdmi z\u00e1jmy a nesm\u00ed se b\u00e1t kritiky ostatn\u00edch, proto\u017ee kritizov\u00e1no nen\u00ed jen Ma\u010farsko, ale nap\u0159\u00edklad i Francie s Emanuelem Macronem a N\u011bmecko s Olafem Scholzem. Nakonec dodal, \u017ee Polsko vn\u00edm\u00e1 ma\u010farskou neochotu podpo\u0159it Ukrajinu jako nedostatek empatie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


Balazs Orb\u00e1n se ujal slova podruh\u00e9 a vyj\u00e1d\u0159il n\u00e1zor Ma\u010farska, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jeho nep\u0159\u00edtelem nebo p\u0159\u00edtelem a \u017ee Ma\u010farsko se mus\u00ed navzdory v\u0161emu pos\u00edlit. V\u00e1lka je v\u0161ak podle n\u011bj velkou trag\u00e9di\u00ed a hrozbou. P\u0159irovnal v\u00e1lku k filmu, na kter\u00fd se ka\u017ed\u00fd d\u00edv\u00e1me, ale ka\u017ed\u00fd si ho vykl\u00e1d\u00e1me jinak. Ma\u010farsko i Polsko odsoudily Rusko, podpo\u0159ily Ukrajinu a zachovaly se lidsky. Evropa v\u0161ak mus\u00ed b\u00fdt jednotn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Povoluje vojenskou podporu Ukrajin\u011b, ale ekonomick\u00e9 sankce mus\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159epo\u010d\u00edt\u00e1ny. Jako p\u0159\u00edklad uvedl sankce uvalen\u00e9 na Rusko v roce 2014 po anexi Krymu, kter\u00e9 nem\u011bly \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd \u00fa\u010dinek, ale p\u0159inesly Ma\u010farsku velk\u00e9 ztr\u00e1ty, a p\u0159esto Rusko po osmi letech znovu za\u00fato\u010dilo. Podle n\u011bj je ma\u010farsk\u00e1 logika zalo\u017eena na m\u00edru. Nez\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, kdo vyhraje, d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je obnovit m\u00edr, proto\u017ee je to v z\u00e1jmu Ma\u010farska.<\/p>\n\n\n\n


Zsolt N\u00e9meth zase zd\u016fraznil, \u017ee sankce jsou velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, ale souhlas\u00ed s t\u00edm, \u017ee je t\u0159eba je p\u0159epo\u010d\u00edtat. Prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee m\u00e1me co do \u010din\u011bn\u00ed s propagandistickou v\u00e1lkou a \u017ee rozd\u00edly nesm\u00ed pokazit velmi dobr\u00e9 polsko-ma\u010farsk\u00e9 vztahy, kter\u00e9 se rozv\u00edjely po tis\u00edc let, a zd\u016fraznil jejich s\u00edlu. Upozornil, \u017ee se velmi ob\u00e1v\u00e1 hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 recese, kter\u00e1 by mohla m\u00edt tragick\u00e9 n\u00e1sledky, a proto po\u017e\u00e1dal o pochopen\u00ed druhou stranu. Vyjad\u0159uje sv\u016fj vd\u011bk Marku Kuchci\u0144sk\u00e9mu, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e o tom p\u00ed\u0161e v polsk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00edch, zd\u016fraz\u0148uje, \u017ee nem\u016f\u017eeme \u0159\u00edkat, \u017ee se li\u0161\u00edme, ale jen se to sna\u017e\u00edme pochopit, a Marek Kuchci\u0144ski to ch\u00e1pe. Je p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den, \u017ee bez ohledu na vojenskou podporu je zapot\u0159eb\u00ed diplomacie. Rusko bude i nad\u00e1le sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed sv\u011bta a my mus\u00edme jednat tak, aby i nad\u00e1le bylo sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed sv\u011bta, ale nep\u0159edstavovalo hrozbu do budoucna.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marek Kuchci\u0144ski d\u011bkuje Zsoltu Nemethovi za naps\u00e1n\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nku v polsk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00edch, nebo\u0165 objas\u0148uje ma\u010farsk\u00e9 stanovisko a podn\u011bcuje diskusi. Op\u011bt vyjad\u0159uje uspokojen\u00ed nad t\u00edm, \u017ee m\u016f\u017eeme v r\u00e1mci tohoto panelu diskutovat o tak z\u00e1va\u017en\u00fdch a zaj\u00edmav\u00fdch t\u00e9matech. Svobodn\u00fd se svobodn\u00fdm, rovn\u00fd s rovn\u00fdm. Takto mus\u00edme budovat Evropu, proto\u017ee kdy\u017e jsme m\u011bli toto heslo, na\u0161i soused\u00e9 pro n\u00e1s nep\u0159edstavovali hrozbu. Takto by vid\u011bl Evropskou unii - jako Evropu vlasti, nikoli jako pod\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed se my\u0161lence evropsk\u00e9ho superst\u00e1tu. To je to, co n\u00e1s spojuje a co mus\u00edme pochopit. P\u0159edseda parlamentu prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee je anachronick\u00e9 si myslet, \u017ee by se Ukrajina m\u011bla vzd\u00e1t \u010d\u00e1sti sv\u00e9ho \u00fazem\u00ed. Podle n\u011bj je princip nedotknutelnosti hranic nezpochybniteln\u00fd. Na Ukrajin\u011b vznik\u00e1 nov\u00fd n\u00e1rod, a pokud se ruskojazy\u010dn\u00ed ob\u010dan\u00e9 postav\u00ed proti ruskojazy\u010dn\u00e9mu agresorovi, respektujeme to, a proto Ukrajinu tolik podporujeme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

D\u00e1le vystoupil Ryszard Terlecki, kter\u00fd zm\u00ednil, \u017ee ji\u017e mnoho let je slibov\u00e1no, \u017ee Ukrajina bude p\u0159ijata do Evropsk\u00e9 unie. Tot\u00e9\u017e plat\u00ed pro \u010cernou Horu nebo Makedonii, kter\u00e9 navzdory spln\u011bn\u00ed podm\u00ednek a \u010dlenstv\u00ed v NATO st\u00e1le nejsou \u010dleny. V d\u016fsledku v\u00e1lky se situace zm\u011bnila a Ukrajina a v\u0161echny ostatn\u00ed zem\u011b maj\u00ed \u0161anci na p\u0159ipojen\u00ed k Unii, proto\u017ee star\u00e1 Unie pochopila podstatu probl\u00e9mu. P\u0159ed na\u0161ima o\u010dima se odehr\u00e1vaj\u00ed obrovsk\u00e9 geopolitick\u00e9 zm\u011bny. St\u0159edn\u00ed Evropa se mus\u00ed kone\u010dn\u011b sm\u00ed\u0159it sama se sebou. Sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed produkce uhl\u00ed a atomov\u00e9 energie se v Unii pl\u00e1nuje ji\u017e velmi dlouho a vedou k tomu i sankce uvnit\u0159 Unie. Navzdory rozd\u00edl\u016fm mus\u00edme b\u00fdt siln\u00ed, mus\u00edme b\u00fdt spolu a p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010dit o tom ostatn\u00ed. Na z\u00e1v\u011br se slova ujal moder\u00e1tor panelu, profesor Maciej Szymanowski, kter\u00fd vyj\u00e1d\u0159il uspokojen\u00ed nad t\u00edm, \u017ee takov\u00e1to diskuse, velmi v\u00e1\u017en\u00e1 a konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed, pr\u00e1v\u011b zah\u00e1jila \u010dinnost Karpatsk\u00fdch evropsk\u00fdch klub\u016f v Budape\u0161ti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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